matta Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Think that is the worst decision of them all. Refs and VAR. Useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Who is VAR today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Compare that to the penalty given against us for Maddison… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nortoon Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I think in the start VAR was too fair on the non-top 6 teams. So they found a way around it. Lets not re-referee games. In effect this rule exists so thgat the referee can blow at anfield when Salah starts rolling, and use the excuse that it wasn't an obvious error. If the same happens for us against Man City the referee won't blow. And the excuse given is its not an obvious error. Absolutely corrupt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 We looking at a card for that aswell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 There's absolutely no accountability for these cunts. That decision re: the penalty was the worst I've seen. So fucking blatant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Shit as the officials always are, our players are a bunch of absolute fucking pansies. Why don't they ever surround the refs, get in their faces, scream and demand the obvious decisions they're ignoring be checked? They barely even ask, just seem to accept the shit we're served every time. "Respect the ref" can go hang, the refs aren't respecting us one iota so our lads need to get all over them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Who is VAR today? Craig Pawson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Var didn't even review therefore abdicating all responsibility - just pitiful because we all know if that was dubravka and sterling what the decision would be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Pilko said: Shit as the officials always are, our players are a bunch of absolute fucking pansies. Why don't they ever surround the refs, get in their faces, scream and demand the obvious decisions they're ignoring be checked? They barely even ask, just seem to accept the shit we're served every time. "Respect the ref" can go hang, the refs aren't respecting us one iota so our lads need to get all over them. This is also spot on. A bit of aggression is absolutely needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 It’s fine lads seems like it’s ok to take players out so long as your team mate is in control of the ball. Can’t even admit that they’ve got it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, toon25 said: This is also spot on. A bit of aggression is absolutely needed. We'd have multiple players booked and sent off. Bans which we can ill afford. Edited December 19, 2021 by Robster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyne81 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 What is even the point anymore? We are up against the opposition, officials and the Premier League ever since the takeover. Corrupt as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, nortoon said: I think in the start VAR was too fair on the non-top 6 teams. So they found a way around it. Lets not re-referee games. In effect this rule exists so thgat the referee can blow at anfield when Salah starts rolling, and use the excuse that it wasn't an obvious error. If the same happens for us against Man City the referee won't blow. And the excuse given is its not an obvious error. Absolutely corrupt. Consistency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: So now apparently a player needs to be in control of the ball for a foul to be given. Like that's what we're been told the rules are now Just making shit up as they go along of fucking live TV Assume this new rule (that has never been announced) will mean no more penalties against defenders grappling with centre forwards when a corner tick is about to be taken, because we've had a few of those given against us over the years as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Great to see VAR doing its job perfectly against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Some seriously fishy decisions going against us of late, certainly since the PIF took charge of us and the Prem got a bloodied nose. Don't get me wrong, I don't for a minute think we were likely to get anything from Liverpool or Man City but it certainly doesn't help morale when there's very dodgy reffing happening in our matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) Difficult not to think the PL don't want us down. In the last 3 games alone: Maddison dived for the pen, VAR did nothing. A player down with a head injury in 6 yard box, ref plays on, we concede. Trent is last man, kicks through Fraser to get to the ball, no pen. Joelinton gets goal side of Rodri, brought down cynically, no booking. Two minutes later, Hayden mistimes his first tackle and is booked. Rodri then gets what should of been a second yellow for stopping another counter attack. Ederson cleans out Fraser, no penalty. Huge game changing decisions, nearly all of them clear as day and all given against us. Difficult to feel there isn't a conspiracy at this stage. Edited December 19, 2021 by PlymouthGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 What's this interfering with play stuff Hoddle (and others) are cracking onabout? Like that's a rule for offsides not fouls, aye? I can understand something like that being talked about when it comes to accidental collitions but Edderson just fucking takes Fraser out in the box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, PlymouthGeordie said: Difficult not to think the PL don't want us down. In the last 3 games alone: Maddison dived for the pen, VAR did nothing. A player down with a head injury in 6 yard box, ref plays on, we concede. Trent is last man, kicks through Fraser to get to the ball, no pen. Joelinton gets goal side of Rodri, brought down cynically, no booking. Two minutes later, Hayden mistimes his first tackle and is booked. Rodri then gets what should of been a second yellow for stopping another counter attack. Ederson cleans out Fraser, no penalty. Huge game changing decisions, nearly all of them clear as day and all given against us. Difficult to feel there isn't a conspiracy at this stage. There is no conspiracy, we get the same shit decisions other teams get. Every forum on Earth claims there is a conspiracy against them. The Fraser/Trent one wasn’t a pen, was a good tackle. The head injury wasn’t a reason to stop the game. The Rodri thing today, VAR can’t give second yellows. Atkinson was also clear he gave him the benefit of the doubt for the first, which is why he booked him for the second. Also disagree, other than Maddison, that the others were game changing decisions. We’d still have got pumped vs Liverpool and Man City. Probably the same at Leicester too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Can barely even be bothered to complain about this now, it's every game. Hard to work out if it's actually a stitch up or just everyone hates us in general now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: There is no conspiracy, we get the same shit decisions other teams get. Every forum on Earth claims there is a conspiracy against them. The Fraser/Trent one wasn’t a pen, was a good tackle. The head injury wasn’t a reason to stop the game. The Rodri thing today, VAR can’t give second yellows. Atkinson was also clear he gave him the benefit of the doubt for the first, which is why he booked him for the second. Also disagree, other than Maddison, that the others were game changing decisions. We’d still have got pumped vs Liverpool and Man City. Probably the same at Leicester too. Liverpool had one of the most blatant penalties turned down against us too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: There is no conspiracy, we get the same shit decisions other teams get. Every forum on Earth claims there is a conspiracy against them. The Fraser/Trent one wasn’t a pen, was a good tackle. The head injury wasn’t a reason to stop the game. The Rodri thing today, VAR can’t give second yellows. Atkinson was also clear he gave him the benefit of the doubt for the first, which is why he booked him for the second. Also disagree, other than Maddison, that the others were game changing decisions. We’d still have got pumped vs Liverpool and Man City. Probably the same at Leicester too. Fraser pen (vs Liverpool) was at 2-1 with 10 minutes to go. Hayden head injury was at 1-0 up, regardless of opposition it's a key moment. I know VAR doesn't get involved in yellows, but why did Rodri get a warning and Hayden didn't? If we get the pen to make it 1-2 today we're back in it. We'd still likely lose but it's not a reason to not give it. Maddison was at 0-0 approaching half time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Just now, PlymouthGeordie said: Fraser pen (vs Liverpool) was at 2-1 with 10 minutes to go. Hayden head injury was at 1-0 up, regardless of opposition it's a key moment. I know VAR doesn't get involved in yellows, but why did Rodri get a warning and Hayden didn't? If we get the pen to make it 1-2 today we're back in it. We'd still likely lose but it's not a reason to not give it. Maddison was at 0-0 approaching half time. It wasn’t a penalty. It doesn’t matter if it was in the 94th minute at 0-0. It was a good tackle. Hayden ‘head injury’ wasn’t a reason to stop the game. Again, it doesn’t matter when it occurred. Hayden didn’t get a warning because he slid in five seconds late and completely cleared out the man. That’s always been a yellow. Even if we got a penalty today and got it back to 2-1, Man City would’ve stepped it up a gear. We had no gears left. Again, even if Maddison didn’t get that penalty, our team collapsed i. the second half despite it only being 1-0 and didn’t even look close to scoring. Even if it was 0-0, what difference would it have made? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: It wasn’t a penalty. It doesn’t matter if it was in the 94th minute at 0-0. It was a good tackle. Hayden ‘head injury’ wasn’t a reason to stop the game. Again, it doesn’t matter when it occurred. Hayden didn’t get a warning because he slid in five seconds late and completely cleared out the man. That’s always been a yellow. Even if we got a penalty today and got it back to 2-1, Man City would’ve stepped it up a gear. We had no gears left. Again, even if Maddison didn’t get that penalty, our team collapsed i. the second half despite it only being 1-0 and didn’t even look close to scoring. Even if it was 0-0, what difference would it have made? On the head injury, it is a reason for stopping the game, it happens every week. See lascelles on jesus today. On the Maddison thing, if we'd have got the first goal Leicester may well have collapsed given their prior form and confidence; the ref robbed us of that opportunity. Agree to disagree on the others as can't be bothered to get in to a continuous back and forth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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