AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, gjohnson said: By the letter it was offside....in the spirit he was going away from goal. Would have been disallowed if it was us that scored from it What does the letter say that makes it offside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: What does the letter say that makes it offside? His foot clearly beyond all other players, and therefore he is offside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: His foot clearly beyond all other players, and therefore he is offside Not quite, the decision on whether he's offside is also based on what he's doing. Not just where his foot is. Edited February 27, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Wasn’t a fucking free kick in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Not quite, the decision on whether he's offside is also based on what he's doing. Not just where his foot is. And that is the spirit rather than the letter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, gjohnson said: And that is the spirit rather than the letter Nah, the spirit is what it intends to do, the letter is what the rulebook says. The rulebook will spell out when someone is offside, which will include what the player is doing (interfering in play etc). I guess I know what you mean, just being pedantic for some reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Also, did they even look at that tackle on Big Joe? Fucking awful. They genuinely need to sort the consistency out as Bruno got sent off for the exact same thing the other week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Nah, the spirit is what it intends to do, the letter is what the rulebook says. The rulebook will spell out when someone is offside, which will include what the player is doing (interfering in play etc). I guess I know what you mean, just being pedantic for some reason Well in that case it's even more offside, as there's no way he's not interfering with play in that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, mattypnufc said: Also, did they even look at that tackle on Big Joe? Fucking awful. They genuinely need to sort the consistency out as Bruno got sent off for the exact same thing the other week. That was the most egregious. Bruno rightly saw red, Cas should have too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, gjohnson said: His foot clearly beyond all other players, and therefore he is offside I thought it was offside as well, but not really surprised when they gave it. If it's marginal it's always going to go the way of the royalty clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, gjohnson said: Well in that case it's even more offside, as there's no way he's not interfering with play in that situation. That's what I thought; why was he there if not interfering with play? But like I say, the coach I know reckons that from a free kick if he didn't score he wasn't offside, the end. I have no idea how it works any more Edited February 27, 2023 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 What was the deal with Casemiro’s sleeve. Wasn’t it clearly beyond everyone else? Not that I think it should necessarily matter but wasn’t it the reason Isak’s was ruled out against Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 There were at least two identical challenges on NUFC players after Bruno's on Rashford, not given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: There were at least two identical challenges on NUFC players after Bruno's on Rashford, not given. Aye, I remember an identical challenge on Wilson in the second half not being given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Aye, I remember an identical challenge on Wilson in the second half not being given. yep, was in a very similar area of the pitch too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 When Shaw is about to take the free kick, how can they determine that wieghorst is NOT the intended target? surely any fucker that makes an attempt to run forward has to be flagged as offside? I bet there's 500 examples of goals chalked off in identical circumstances. New rules? fucking bollocks, it may not be next week, maybe not the week after but we know there will be an exact situation where Man Utd are the defending team where the goal is chalked off. Corruption, plain and fuckin simple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 hours ago, gjohnson said: By the letter it was offside....in the spirit he was going away from goal. Would have been disallowed if it was us that scored from it If it was us it would have been disallowed on the pitch and it wouldn’t have been “clear and obvious” enough for it to be overturned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Having an elite sport where nobody knows the rules is canny worrying when you think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Including, quite often, those charged with consistently applying those rules Edited February 27, 2023 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 There's fuck all need for offside to be as complicated as it is, like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 The new system (the one used at the WC and in the CL) that will be used from next season looks much better as it isn't reliance on a bloke with a mouse, who can move the lines to benefit to determine the outcome they want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Pups said: yep, was in a very similar area of the pitch too? Aye, was fuming when it wasn't given. As for the offside, it should have been given if Weghorst attempts to play the ball or interferes with play. Haven't seen it again to say if he does that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) If he's in the line for a free kick, it's hard to argue that he's not interfering with play, though. The only reason to be there is to be trying to get on the end of the cross and/or drawing a defender Edited February 27, 2023 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 In theory, under the current rules could you not have a couple of players who stand offside and draw players away from the ball as long as they aren't "interfering with play". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 People already do that on set plays, standing offside on the first phase, but are onside for the second phase when the ball is headed back across to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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