joeyt Posted Sunday at 11:08 Share Posted Sunday at 11:08 Any sort of stats and figures regarding VAR and 'correcting calls' I always take with a complete pinch of salt. At the end of the day it's just one referees opinion against 2 others in a studio somewhere. Even something that could be black and white like offside calls can be murky by adding in human opinions of whether someone is interfering or standing in the keeprs line of vision For example, the van Dijk shoulder charge on Gordon at SJP earlier this season. Where does that appear in the statistics? Does it go down as a correct call because the referee didn't give a penalty and VAR didn't intervene? Even though the vast majoirty of fans would say that VAR should have intervened and given a penalty? But then again some fans would say it wasn't a penalty at all and it was the correct call So who is deciding what these 'correct calls' are? It's not black and white like goalline technology, it's completely subjective and always will be. It's why VAR can never work in a sport like football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted Sunday at 11:18 Share Posted Sunday at 11:18 We could have had VAR in the 90s and 00s when football was reaching the peak of its popularity. There was a reason we didn't and it's not because we've only just invented replays in the last 5 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted Sunday at 11:19 Share Posted Sunday at 11:19 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cf said: We could have had VAR in the 90s and 00s when football was reaching the peak of its popularity. There was a reason we didn't and it's not because we've only just invented replays in the last 5 years. Yeah it’s because Man U wanted their keeper to be allowed to retrieve the ball from the back of the net and pretend it didn’t go in Edited Sunday at 11:20 by leffe186 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted Sunday at 15:16 Share Posted Sunday at 15:16 Absolutely fucking abysmal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Sunday at 15:40 Share Posted Sunday at 15:40 The absolute fucking worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted Sunday at 15:42 Share Posted Sunday at 15:42 I think VAR needs to be put on a time limit if it’s going to stay. Its so fucking slow. If you can’t make a decision in say 90 seconds, its not a clear and obvious error and on pitch decision stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted Sunday at 15:45 Share Posted Sunday at 15:45 Gomez fouls Tonali on the breakaway and then minutes later kicks the ball away despite it being out of touch - neither a yellow according to that fucking cunt Taylor. Hope someone decks him when he's out and about after he ignored the Yates elbow on Tino at Forest too the utter wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted Sunday at 15:47 Share Posted Sunday at 15:47 2 minutes ago, Jordan said: I think VAR needs to be put on a time limit if it’s going to stay. Its so fucking slow. If you can’t make a decision in say 90 seconds, its not a clear and obvious error and on pitch decision stands. We need AI to do the decisions. And VAR needs to be black and white, no intended, natural position or any shit that can make human errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Sunday at 15:55 Share Posted Sunday at 15:55 At least he’s evened it out there. Tonali should have been booked for that on Pedro and then Bruno for belting it away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eveready Posted Sunday at 16:08 Share Posted Sunday at 16:08 Masterclass on how to ruin a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Sunday at 16:51 Share Posted Sunday at 16:51 It's always the same whenever Taylor referees the game He completely loses control and he's always centre of attention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Sunday at 16:54 Share Posted Sunday at 16:54 5 hours ago, joeyt said: Any sort of stats and figures regarding VAR and 'correcting calls' I always take with a complete pinch of salt. At the end of the day it's just one referees opinion against 2 others in a studio somewhere. Even something that could be black and white like offside calls can be murky by adding in human opinions of whether someone is interfering or standing in the keeprs line of vision For example, the van Dijk shoulder charge on Gordon at SJP earlier this season. Where does that appear in the statistics? Does it go down as a correct call because the referee didn't give a penalty and VAR didn't intervene? Even though the vast majoirty of fans would say that VAR should have intervened and given a penalty? But then again some fans would say it wasn't a penalty at all and it was the correct call So who is deciding what these 'correct calls' are? It's not black and white like goalline technology, it's completely subjective and always will be. It's why VAR can never work in a sport like football It’s weird because when they do these tables of what it would look like, they do it for every decision that VAR has overturned. When they do stats about how accurate it is, they only include televised games that include one of the top 6 clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Sunday at 17:06 Share Posted Sunday at 17:06 We were bad but this cunt did everything he could to make things 10x worse. No exaggeration to say they could have 3 players off for holding players when we were on the break. That NFL tackle on Willock not getting a yellow was about as farcical as it gets. Genuinely not fit to referee, an absolute disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Sunday at 17:15 Share Posted Sunday at 17:15 @Kaizero you enjoy celebrating Schar’s offside goal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted Sunday at 17:16 Share Posted Sunday at 17:16 (edited) How Taylor is the top ref is completely beyond me and shows how much of shit show PGMOL is. Edited Sunday at 17:16 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Sunday at 17:21 Share Posted Sunday at 17:21 Im all for letting the game flow, but he missed so many yellows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted Sunday at 17:22 Share Posted Sunday at 17:22 Just now, nufc123 said: Im all for letting the game flow, but he missed so many yellows. He didn't let the game flow though and missed so many tactical fouls. Mainly by Brighton but their were a couple by us as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted Sunday at 17:22 Share Posted Sunday at 17:22 Just now, nufc123 said: Im all for letting the game flow, but he missed so many yellows. He didn't miss them as such. He stubbornly refused to show them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted Sunday at 18:14 Share Posted Sunday at 18:14 He completely bottled sending Baleba off like, already on a yellow and blatant pull back which is always a yellow. He's absolutely shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted Sunday at 18:17 Share Posted Sunday at 18:17 Up there with the worst. Not necessarily against us, just complete dog shit in all aspects. From missed corner kicks, to foul throws being asked to be retaken, missing blatant yellow cards, failing to punish players in one moment to then pulling back play for the same thing the next. Not allowing the game to play out, to completely missing the simplest of decisions for pulls/dives etc. Completely and utter abysmal in every single way. Him and his cronies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted Sunday at 19:16 Share Posted Sunday at 19:16 (edited) Booked Joelinton for a shirt pull so thought that was the gage. Brighton had to have gotten away with the same thing 20x thereafter. Either without the same punishment or without even a foul. Seemed just pot luck which of their injury feigning on the ground he bought and which he waved on - probably based his lotto numbers on it or something. Helped make an already wretched game worse to the point it shouldn't have been possible to lose control so laboured was it but he managed it. Edited Sunday at 19:17 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted Sunday at 21:49 Share Posted Sunday at 21:49 Wasn't the reason we lost but was completely clueless. Not going to go through them all but the rugby tackle on Wilson not resulting in a card was probably the highlight. Booked Joelinton for the first pullback of the game then let about 6 players from both teams get away with far more blatant ones. Baffling. Like Oliver, he had a few years where he was very food but he seems to have hit some sort of menopause-related insanity about 18 months ago and he's useless now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Sunday at 21:54 Share Posted Sunday at 21:54 Really? I have no recollection of him having a period where he was anything other than total shit. Constantly misreads the game and appears to guess what to do. I think he’s probably in my top two refs to avoid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted Sunday at 22:36 Share Posted Sunday at 22:36 Amazing that in one game a referee can influence the outcome of our entire season - going from still being in two cups and chasing Europe, to ending one cup run, sabotaging the final of another and also weakening our squad for the league run-in, all with some wank officiating. Do I blame Gordon? A little, but nowhere near as much as the ref in today's match. I know the FA think the sun shines out of his arse, but personally, I thought he was shit today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago The other 'top ref' didn't give a red card to the millwall keeper and had to be dragged over to the monitor to look at it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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