TheGuv Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Definitely should give us at least one more year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 If HBA keeps up his performances of late and we keep our current squad, makes a couple of reinforcements like Deubuchy and avoid long term injuries on key players I see us as a serious candidate for CL next year. For HBA I really don't think it's about money. He wants to play football on the highest level. Besides, in NUFC he's the biggest fish in the bowl. He's loved and adored. That counts a lot for him I think. If we qualify for CL I really don't believe he'll leave, unless Barca or Real comes knocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 When he says big clubs he is talking about massive, top level clubs imo and he's not going to walk into those kinds of sides. I think he will stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 When he says big clubs he is talking about massive, top level clubs imo and he's not going to walk into those kinds of sides. I think he will stay. He needs to work on his stability. On his best day he's unstoppable. If he manages to harness his potential he's capable to walk into the best teams. Very, very few players are capable of replicating his goals against Blackburn and Bolton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 He has got the potential to be an amazing player, you could probably count on one hand the players around who could score a goal similar to the one against Blackburn. He will be class next season when he's in the team every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 This is a stupid debate for a number of reasons. Firstly, we should never advocate losing our best players. The whole point of football, is fans flocking to watch great teams and wonderful players, not being a stepping stone to supposed (or actual) bigger clubs. Therefore regardless of a fee in which we may get, or the club in which he may join, the only emotion we should feel is disappontment that we won't get to watch that player again. Secondly, worrying about Ben Arfa moving is pointless. IF he moves, we won't get a choice where he goes, only he will decide that. Ben Arfa has already proved that he's not particularly bothered about whether the club likes it or not. If he wants to leave, he will leave. He can say he loves the club and that he's happy, he's found his home etc but haven't we heard it all before? Jose Enrique proved never to trust the shite that comes out of footballers mouths. If a "big club" (which is a horrible term), comes in for Ben Arfa and he fancies the money or the trophies or the lifestyle, he will leave. However, there is no point worrying, as it is the same for every other footballer who walks through the doors of SJP, including those from Newcastle. It's also the same for every other club in the world, other than perhaps Barcelona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 The comments on that Liverpool article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 This is a stupid debate for a number of reasons. Firstly, we should never advocate losing our best players. The whole point of football, is fans flocking to watch great teams and wonderful players, not being a stepping stone to supposed (or actual) bigger clubs. Therefore regardless of a fee in which we may get, or the club in which he may join, the only emotion we should feel is disappontment that we won't get to watch that player again. Secondly, worrying about Ben Arfa moving is pointless. IF he moves, we won't get a choice where he goes, only he will decide that. Ben Arfa has already proved that he's not particularly bothered about whether the club likes it or not. If he wants to leave, he will leave. He can say he loves the club and that he's happy, he's found his home etc but haven't we heard it all before? Jose Enrique proved never to trust the shite that comes out of footballers mouths. If a "big club" (which is a horrible term), comes in for Ben Arfa and he fancies the money or the trophies or the lifestyle, he will leave. However, there is no point worrying, as it is the same for every other footballer who walks through the doors of SJP, including those from Newcastle. It's also the same for every other club in the world, other than perhaps Barcelona. Terrific summary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eriksen Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/06/wing-star-admits-i-would-leave-if.html 6/09/2012 11:00:00 PM Wing star admits: I would leave if a 'serious' offer came in. Should LFC bid...? France winger Hatem Ben Arfa has been a revelation at Newcastle United, but despite being 'settled' at the club, he's admitted that he could leave if a 'big club' came in for him over the summer. Given Liverpool's lack of real attacking quality at the moment, should the club be looking at Ben Arfa as a potential recruit? Speaking to Sky Sports yesterday, Ben Arfa - who is currently at Euro 2012 with France - said: "If I don't have a really very, very serious proposition, I will stay [At Newcastle]. "If a big club comes but doesn't propose me something very exciting, which means the coach really wants me, I will stay. If I don't feel trust from the coach at 100 per cent, I will not leave" Prior to Ben Arfa's move to Newcastle, Liverpool were heavily linked with a possible move, and if Ben Arfa was 100% committed to Newcastle then surely he would just say 'I'm happy here and don't want to leave'. The fact that he gives specific examples of what it would take to make him leave suggests that he's more than willing to consider moving to a different club. Newcastle are a great club, but Liverpool is undoubtedly a bigger club, and if the Reds really wanted Ben Arfa, then I'm sure Brendan Rodgers would be able to convince him to come to Anfield. What do you think? Should Liverpool pursue Ben Arfa and make a 'serious proposition' for his services? Comment: "why even bother arguing with a Newcastle fan? Haha.. Nobody wants to be newcastle fan outside UK! Haha.. Go out and see the world mate." Strange.. Cause I'm a 16 year old NUFC fan from Norway, and there is thousands of NUFC fans here. Ofcourse there is more Liverpool fans here, but still.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Liverpools attitude, will be Liverpools demise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 This is a stupid debate for a number of reasons. Secondly, worrying about Ben Arfa moving is pointless. IF he moves, we won't get a choice where he goes, only he will decide that. Ben Arfa has already proved that he's not particularly bothered about whether the club likes it or not. If he wants to leave, he will leave. He can say he loves the club and that he's happy, he's found his home etc but haven't we heard it all before? Jose Enrique proved never to trust the shite that comes out of footballers mouths. If a "big club" (which is a horrible term), comes in for Ben Arfa and he fancies the money or the trophies or the lifestyle, he will leave. However, there is no point worrying, as it is the same for every other footballer who walks through the doors of SJP, including those from Newcastle. It's also the same for every other club in the world, other than perhaps Barcelona. A bit harsh comparing Enrique to HBA. Besides the obvious difference in talent and intelligence, HBA has been in the media for the wrong reasons in France, which you could not say about Enrique before his twitter-gate. It could be possible that HBA is a different person now compared to pre-NUFC. I think his injury really opened his eyes. It was a potential career ender, and to just write that off and say that he'll move if given the opportunity really ignores the complexity of human nature. Enrique never had the same adaption problems as HBA, neither has he had his calf cut in two. The way the club followed him up after the injury didn't hurt either. If he moves, he'll do it because the move will make him a better footballer. He'll not go to a 4th placed Chelsea because they give him stupid money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Quotes can be misleading. Question might have been "If Barcelona offer you a multi billion pound contract, will you leave?", or it could have been "How's Newcastle Hatem?". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spiria Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Question exactly was : "What if Barcelona or Madrid want you if you do a good euro ?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Was it last summer when that tosh was posted about someone being honoured if Jose Enrique joined Barcelona? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 After the preparation matches against average teams, we now know the Blanc's starting XI for the tournament. Blanc is the kind of manager who gives his confidence over time to what he considers his "best" team, although some players are not in their best form (Mexes and Nasri are the best exemples currently) His experience at Bordeaux show that he doesn't rely enough on the players on the bench...Thus, when in 2009/2010, the starters were less fit, the substitutes were so little involved that Bordeaux has lost the title. That lead to Ben Arfa's (or Menez) role. Blanc considers him as a "supersub", to come lately in case of problems... The french boss didn't try during the friendlies to put HBA in the position of starter ahead Nasri in his 4-3-3. While he started against Iceland, that was only because he was between the players who arrived earlier at clairefontaine, and in a unbalanced system, with a a very attacking midfield (Cabaye + Nasri + Gourcuff !!!) Against Serbia and Estonia, he played only 20 mins, which show how Blanc will use him ("Ok Hatem, we have a serious problem, go and do what you want etc.") and I find that unfortunate...Better used, Ben Arfa is more efficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If he did leave, I'd like to see him sign for Bayern Munich. Imagine a midfield with Robben, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Schweinsteiger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If he did leave, I'd like to see him sign for Bayern Munich. Imagine a midfield with Robben, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Schweinsteiger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If he did leave, I'd like to see him sign for Bayern Munich. Imagine a midfield with Robben, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Schweinsteiger. I dare say I'd be proud to see him in that group of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If he did leave, I'd like to see him sign for Bayern Munich. Imagine a midfield with Robben, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Schweinsteiger. I dare say I'd be proud to see him in that group of players. http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6207/1286120023567.gif No wonder we don't win any thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If he did leave, I'd like to see him sign for Bayern Munich. Imagine a midfield with Robben, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Schweinsteiger. I dare say I'd be proud to see him in that group of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If he did leave, I'd like to see him sign for Bayern Munich. Imagine a midfield with Robben, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Schweinsteiger. A midfield of Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa makes my balls tingle more tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 This is a stupid debate for a number of reasons. Secondly, worrying about Ben Arfa moving is pointless. IF he moves, we won't get a choice where he goes, only he will decide that. Ben Arfa has already proved that he's not particularly bothered about whether the club likes it or not. If he wants to leave, he will leave. He can say he loves the club and that he's happy, he's found his home etc but haven't we heard it all before? Jose Enrique proved never to trust the shite that comes out of footballers mouths. If a "big club" (which is a horrible term), comes in for Ben Arfa and he fancies the money or the trophies or the lifestyle, he will leave. However, there is no point worrying, as it is the same for every other footballer who walks through the doors of SJP, including those from Newcastle. It's also the same for every other club in the world, other than perhaps Barcelona. A bit harsh comparing Enrique to HBA. Besides the obvious difference in talent and intelligence, HBA has been in the media for the wrong reasons in France, which you could not say about Enrique before his twitter-gate. It could be possible that HBA is a different person now compared to pre-NUFC. I think his injury really opened his eyes. It was a potential career ender, and to just write that off and say that he'll move if given the opportunity really ignores the complexity of human nature. Enrique never had the same adaption problems as HBA, neither has he had his calf cut in two. The way the club followed him up after the injury didn't hurt either. If he moves, he'll do it because the move will make him a better footballer. He'll not go to a 4th placed Chelsea because they give him stupid money. You are incredibly confident that Ben Arfa won't leave should a richer club, playing in the champions league come in for him. My point is that alot of people said the same thing about Enrique. Don't believe what you see/hear/read. If he stays here for five years, i will be shocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 If he did leave, I'd like to see him sign for Bayern Munich. Imagine a midfield with Robben, Ben Arfa, Ribery, Schweinsteiger. I wish people like you would fuck right off. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Fucking Bayern Munich, fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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