Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Eden Hazard is athletically in a much high stratum than Hatem Ben Arfa ever has been or will be. I actually would say that our own player is a better technical dribbler, but that is all. Hazard can beat other players just by changing speeds. It is incredible the number of times he leaves a defender rubbished just by accelerating into a different gear. This is something people under estimate about him, (and Messi, tbh) his lower body strength and explosiveness is just ideal for his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Intelligence with the ball is a massive advantage Hazard has. It's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Vision and Intelligence, that's the seperation. There's a huge gulf in class between Hazard/HBA on them accounts though. I do think Ben Arfa has some sort of mental problem. Always thought him to have split personality disorder, must be a reason to why he is a loner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I like Baba's point about lower body strength and explosion too. Hazard is a tough runner, and is far more physical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hatem did suffer a double leg fracture to be fair. He was never going to be quite as good as he could have been after that. He definitely had Hazard levels of acceleration in that Everton game. He's still quick now when he wants to be but not what he was. Hazard wasn't being rated as high last year as he is being currently. He started well when he joined Chelsea but then faded badly and was incredibly inconsistent. Just shows if a player has the right manager who can help develop them, as well as playing regularly and avoid injury then they can go on and potentially become far better than they were even 1-2 years previously. Hazard is developing perfectly at the moment, Hatem unfortunately has probably missed his chance now where he could have kicked on and become a top player. Probably when he was messing around in France falling out with managers etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hatem did suffer a double leg fracture to be fair. He was never going to be quite as good as he could have been after that. He definitely had Hazard levels of acceleration in that Everton game. He's still quick now when he wants to be but not what he was. Hazard wasn't being rated as high last year as he is being currently. He started well when he joined Chelsea but then faded badly and was incredibly inconsistent. Just shows if a player has the right manager who can help develop them, as well as playing regularly and avoid injury then they can go on and potentially become far better than they were even 1-2 years previously. Hazard is developing perfectly at the moment, Hatem unfortunately has probably missed his chance now where he could have kicked on and become a top player. Probably when he was messing around in France falling out with managers etc. Good post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I dont imagine Hazard would look so good in our team either. That said, good run of games coming up, time for HBA to show some balls and get going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Eden Hazard is athletically in a much high stratum than Hatem Ben Arfa ever has been or will be. I actually would say that our own player is a better technical dribbler, but that is all. Hazard can beat other players just by changing speeds. It is incredible the number of times he leaves a defender rubbished just by accelerating into a different gear. This is something people under estimate about him, (and Messi, tbh) his lower body strength and explosiveness is just ideal for his position. Definitely, Hazard's athleticism/physicality is actually one of his biggest strengths. Maybe underrated because he's quite short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 FFS going to be so wank when he leaves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 FFS going to be so wank when he leaves We don't lose key players without replacing them, in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Some magic on the bench man, some people are never happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hang on.....he's been benched?!?! But we have NOBODY. Fucking hell - run Hatem, run as far as you can from this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hang on.....he's been benched?!?! But we have NOBODY. Fucking hell - run Hatem, run as far as you can from this club Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 FFS going to be so w*** when he leaves Best for him if he leaves in the Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Not gonna deny he's been fairly pants in the last two games, but he gets absolutely no leeway whatsoever. One excellent game at Norwich, two poor ones where the entire team and manager were terrible, and he's the first out the side again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Not gonna deny he's been fairly pants in the last two games, but he gets absolutely no leeway whatsoever. One excellent game at Norwich, two poor ones where the entire team and manager were terrible, and he's the first out the side again. Yep, why not the same reaction to Jonas who played in a wide role and was gash forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I just don't get it. Even if we're/he's shit at least he'll try to do something interesting or different. Whether it works or not is another matter, but at least he doesn't just launch the ball off the striker's heads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's ok he can come on on the 84th minute and do some magic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/4US3dA9.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 He'll be the last sub at 3-0 down and still get the blame for the poor performance. Everyone's heads will be down and the game will be gone but he won't be trying hard enough, déjà vu! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Pardew deserves a lynching from the Gallowgate for this ,got players on the pitch who can thrive from his place and he benches him yet again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Fuck off Pardew, just fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Nah, this is beyond silly now. Scape goat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 This is absolutely mindblowing. I couldn't have made this up myself even in my most 'hate Pardew' modes. A new low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Dropped and an Ameobi is on the pitch. Fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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