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There's nothing Hazard can do technically that Hatem can't. His problem is physical conditioning and mental focus. And playing in a team of near statues.

 

Hazard strikes a ball better, has more pace and far more vision/intelligence. To put it down to a few extra fitness sessions and a bit more mental application is ridiculous, even by your standards.

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Hazard strikes a ball better, has more pace and far more vision/intelligence. To put it down to a few extra fitness sessions and a bit more mental application is ridiculous, even by your standards.

 

Ben Arfa can strike a ball just as well imo. We've seen it for ourselves, showed us that on his full debut.

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There's nothing Hazard can do technically that Hatem can't. His problem is physical conditioning and mental focus. And playing in a team of near statues.

 

Hazard strikes a ball better, has more pace and far more vision/intelligence. To put it down to a few extra fitness sessions and a bit more mental application is ridiculous, even by your standards.

 

Ooooh Ben Arfa strikes a ball ridiculously well. Not sure about that one.

 

Hazard's dribbling is a lot more direct which makes him far more effective, and I'd agree his vision and intelligence are many levels higher than Ben Arfa. Those are the real clinchers.

 

 

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Eden Hazard is athletically in a much high stratum than Hatem Ben Arfa ever has been or will be. I actually would say that our own player is a better technical dribbler, but that is all. Hazard can beat other players just by changing speeds. It is incredible the number of times he leaves a defender rubbished just by accelerating into a different gear. This is something people under estimate about him, (and Messi, tbh) his lower body strength and explosiveness is just ideal for his position.

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Vision and Intelligence, that's the seperation. There's a huge gulf in class between Hazard/HBA on them accounts though.

 

I do think Ben Arfa has some sort of mental problem. Always thought him to have split personality disorder, must be a reason to why he is a loner :lol:

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Hatem did suffer a double leg fracture to be fair. He was never going to be quite as good as he could have been after that. He definitely had Hazard levels of acceleration in that Everton game. He's still quick now when he wants to be but not what he was.

 

Hazard wasn't being rated as high last year as he is being currently. He started well when he joined Chelsea but then faded badly and was incredibly inconsistent.

Just shows if a player has the right manager who can help develop them, as well as playing regularly and avoid injury then they can go on and potentially become far better than they were even 1-2 years previously.

 

Hazard is developing perfectly at the moment, Hatem unfortunately has probably missed his chance now where he could have kicked on and become a top player. Probably when he was messing around in France falling out with managers etc.

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Hatem did suffer a double leg fracture to be fair. He was never going to be quite as good as he could have been after that. He definitely had Hazard levels of acceleration in that Everton game. He's still quick now when he wants to be but not what he was.

 

Hazard wasn't being rated as high last year as he is being currently. He started well when he joined Chelsea but then faded badly and was incredibly inconsistent.

Just shows if a player has the right manager who can help develop them, as well as playing regularly and avoid injury then they can go on and potentially become far better than they were even 1-2 years previously.

 

Hazard is developing perfectly at the moment, Hatem unfortunately has probably missed his chance now where he could have kicked on and become a top player. Probably when he was messing around in France falling out with managers etc.

 

Good post.

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Eden Hazard is athletically in a much high stratum than Hatem Ben Arfa ever has been or will be. I actually would say that our own player is a better technical dribbler, but that is all. Hazard can beat other players just by changing speeds. It is incredible the number of times he leaves a defender rubbished just by accelerating into a different gear. This is something people under estimate about him, (and Messi, tbh) his lower body strength and explosiveness is just ideal for his position.

 

Definitely, Hazard's athleticism/physicality is actually one of his biggest strengths. Maybe underrated because he's quite short.

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Not gonna deny he's been fairly pants in the last two games, but he gets absolutely no leeway whatsoever. One excellent game at Norwich, two poor ones where the entire team and manager were terrible, and he's the first out the side again.

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Not gonna deny he's been fairly pants in the last two games, but he gets absolutely no leeway whatsoever. One excellent game at Norwich, two poor ones where the entire team and manager were terrible, and he's the first out the side again.

 

Yep, why not the same reaction to Jonas who played in a wide role and was gash forever

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