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How is Martinez doing well by making them progressively worse, being last in the league and going down? Look how far ahead Norwich and Swansea are.

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Norwich and Swansea have better players. Wigan used to have N'Zogbia, and players like Figueroa and Rodallega all playing well. Now all they have is Momo Diamé. Zog went, they didn't bring a suitable replacement in and Figueroa and Rodallega have turned to shit.

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Norwich and Swansea's entire teams are made up by lower league players, Wigan's have years of experience at this level. He did worse than Steve Bruce with the same team anyway.

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How is Martinez doing well by making them progressively worse, being last in the league and going down? Look how far ahead Norwich and Swansea are.

 

They've lost N'Zogbia of course but I do think a front three of Moses, Rodallega and Crusat is good enough to survive. Yet to see any of his 'attacking style' flower. Although Wigan have never really had a consistent goal getter.

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Norwich's team today.

 

Ruddy (Everton) Premier League (1 PL game)

Martin (Peterborough) League one

Whitbread (Millwall) League one

Ward (Coventry) Championship

Naughton (Tottenham) loan (1 PL game)

Johnson (Leeds) Championship

Surman (Wolves) Premier League (7 PL games)

Pilkington (Huddersfield) League one

E Bennet (Brighton) Championship

Howson (Leeds) Championship

Holt (Shrewsbury) League two

 

Steer (youth)

R Bennett (Peterborough) Championship

Hoolahan ( Blackpool) Championship

Fox ( Colchester) League one

Morison (Millwall) Championship

Jackson ( Gillingham) League one

Wilbraham (Franchise) League one

 

If this team can get in the top 10 Wigan's can do a lot better.

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Norwich and Swansea have better players. Wigan used to have N'Zogbia, and players like Figueroa and Rodallega all playing well. Now all they have is Momo Diamé. Zog went, they didn't bring a suitable replacement in and Figueroa and Rodallega have turned to shit.

Norwich were in League 1 two years ago, I like Martinez but he is doing a terrible job

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Think the arguments may have been over-simplified IMO. This is Norwich's first season in the Prem, for example, think that's (oddly) a big advantage for them. Wigan have Caldwell at the back, man. CALDWELL. :lol:

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they've been long enough in the league to sign someone better than Caldwell, fact is since Martinez took over he's signed a load of guys who can pass a ball reasonably well but can't defend or score many goals his philosophy is something I like but he is useless at spotting players, £6m on Boselli case and point

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And Norwich have Zat Whitbread and Elliott Ward. Caldwell wouldn't be out of place in Norwich's squad and he's Wigan's worst player.

 

I thought Martinez was supposed to know the foreign market and play passing football anyway, what's he playing Caldwell for then?

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Come on man, Americans do not name people Zat.

 

Watched a bit of Lilla/Auxerre, a cameraman followed the Auxerre manager into the tunnel at halftime and he was having a go at Lille's manager (I believe) all the way until they got to the changing room. No clue what it was about, obvs.

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Watching Dijon vs Montpellier - Must say I am mighty impressed with Cognet - playing in central midfield: a very good passer and a very good dribbler - I can see why he's so highly sought after - he's a bit like Rob Lee in his style of play (??) and looks like Darren Huckerby  :lol:

 

Will watch Mapou-Mbiwa closely in the 2nd half - Don't think Giroud is playing

 

Anyway its 0-0 at HT

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People really under-rate the power of momentum. Norwich/Swansea are used to winning. Morale has remained high for a long time for both clubs. That does wonders for your confidence, and a confident footballer is a better footballer. Let's see how they do next year or the year after when the star players get sold.

 

 

Wigan have been battling relegation/bottom half of the table for years now with their best players being sold and to make matters worse they are never a PL side anyway.

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Norwich and Swansea have very clear understandable styles of football. Their tactical mantra's are very obvious when you watch them play. Wigan by contrast look like a meld of 2-3 which just destroys and fluidity to their play, that's why they're so shit.

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Think the arguments may have been over-simplified IMO. This is Norwich's first season in the Prem, for example, think that's (oddly) a big advantage for them. Wigan have Caldwell at the back, man. CALDWELL. :lol:

 

It's the same way that they are used as a stick to beat Pardew by some people, "If their 10th then......"

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Disco, just out of interest, are you from Argentina? No?

 

:lol: Nay, just follow the league.

 

Wigan have lost their knack of finding stars in lesser leagues/nations that they had under Brewcie plus Rodallega turning to shit has fucked them massively.

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Disco, just out of interest, are you from Argentina? No?

 

:lol: Nay, just follow the league.

 

That's what i thought, wasn't sure though :) Might go there for a month next winter. Have a few questions, i'll google instead.

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Munich got beat again today. Big pressure must be building on Heynckes.

 

Apparently lost a lot of the dressing room. They looked really formidable early on in the season.

 

Would be pretty funny if Basel finished the job.

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