Kanj Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Douglas, Remy ...and one of Sissoko and Debuchy. Will be let down, who am I kidding... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Carroll for £8m would be an ok deal, any more and it's crazy money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 "I just cannot see me accepting any fee for any of our players unless I've got a replacement": Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 "I just cannot see me accepting any fee for any of our players unless I've got a replacement": Pardew Like he has a say in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 "I just cannot see me having any say at all regarding sales of our players whether or not I've got a replacement": Pardew There you go Alan, fixed it for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Carroll for £8m would be an ok deal, any more and it's crazy money. I would be OK, best bit would be how stupid Liverpool would look. Overall I don't want Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Carroll for £8m would be an ok deal, any more and it's crazy money. I would be OK, best bit would be how stupid Liverpool would look. Overall I don't want Carroll. Na I don't, but would have been happier in the summer had we got him, now he just looks a wreck on and off the pitch. I do believe we'd get a better Andy Carroll than anyone else though, and that is what I'd hold on to should we sign him. If Pardew is here till 2020 then we might as well get the best targetman we can, and live off that. He also could be a good partner for Cisse, he'll have no problem being the donkey in a Heskey & Owen style combo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Paying anything for Carroll at this point is a waste of money. When he hasn't been injured, his form at West Ham hasn't been much different to his Liverpool form. We dodged a massive bullet last Summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 How long was his contract with Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Carroll for £8m would be an ok deal, any more and it's crazy money. I would be OK, best bit would be how stupid Liverpool would look. Overall I don't want Carroll. Na I don't, but would have been happier in the summer had we got him, now he just looks a wreck on and off the pitch. I do believe we'd get a better Andy Carroll than anyone else though, and that is what I'd hold on to should we sign him. If Pardew is here till 2020 then we might as well get the best targetman we can, and live off that. He also could be a good partner for Cisse, he'll have no problem being the donkey in a Heskey & Owen style combo. Oi Carroll you fancy coming back? We're looking for a donkey! There's a good chance he'd get back to his old self if he came back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Unless Carroll has an absolutely brilliant season at West Ham, i honestly can't see why we would want him back. Even if he suits a style Pardew wants to implement. Like i said back in the summer; i think the Carroll thing was PR. If we'd re-signed the lad for half the price, it would've made us look mint and Liverpool like mugs; regardless of the player's ability. If he was any other player, he wouldn't suit the transfer policy they so rigidly stick to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 West Ham seem to be linked to a lot of strikers at present so I wonder if they are having second thoughts about Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 West Ham seem to be linked to a lot of strikers at present so I wonder if they are having second thoughts about Carroll. 2 big injuries and no goals. They would be mad to be thinking of spunking their load on him atm. I guess he'll pick up second half of the season, its not like he can get any worse and Liverpool certainly won't be recalling him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Unless Carroll has an absolutely brilliant season at West Ham, i honestly can't see why we would want him back. Even if he suits a style Pardew wants to implement. Like i said back in the summer; i think the Carroll thing was PR. If we'd re-signed the lad for half the price, it would've made us look mint and Liverpool like mugs; regardless of the player's ability. If he was any other player, he wouldn't suit the transfer policy they so rigidly stick to. I agree, unless it's for peanuts then I'm worried it will be a poor signing for us. He doesn't fit the wide striker mould and Cisse surely is our main main the centre? Unless we are going back to 4-4-2 or want that as another option I guess. Carroll ironically did stick in some good crosses when out wide for us, but like his goal scoring for us I've not really seen much of him back to his old self at all. I'm also really worried he's too injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Unless Carroll has an absolutely brilliant season at West Ham, i honestly can't see why we would want him back. Even if he suits a style Pardew wants to implement. Like i said back in the summer; i think the Carroll thing was PR. If we'd re-signed the lad for half the price, it would've made us look mint and Liverpool like mugs; regardless of the player's ability. If he was any other player, he wouldn't suit the transfer policy they so rigidly stick to. I agree, unless it's for peanuts then I'm worried it will be a poor signing for us. He doesn't fit the wide striker mould and Cisse surely is our main main the centre? Unless we are going back to 4-4-2 or want that as another option I guess. Carroll ironically did stick in some good crosses when out wide for us, but like his goal scoring for us I've not really seen much of him back to his old self at all. I'm also really worried he's too injury prone. Shola, Taylor, Carroll. The only three local lads who've come through the academy (since the 90s) and 'made it' in this division. All injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The lower body injuries are slowly ruining him. If you see the highlights of that first 6 months in the PL with us and compared them to his 9 West Ham games you'd think he'd had a severe stroke. In the 5-1 game in particular he was sensational. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 The lower body injuries are slowly ruining him. If you see the highlights of that first 6 months in the PL with us and compared them to his 9 West Ham games you'd think he'd had a severe stroke. In the 5-1 game in particular he was sensational. I've seen next to nowt of him this season, but he looked every inch an England-starter in that first season back up with us. He looked like he had everything; you know, the odd 'all-rounder' abilities: decent acceleration / being able to run with the ball cos he had strength to compensate for a lack of pace / decent crosser / bit of an angry cunt. I was fucking gutted when we sold him because i thought we were set for a decade with him. Not a clue what's gone wrong since then. He looked an absolute shadow of that player every single time he played for Liverpool, including when his form picked up a wee bit prior to the Euros. Sensational header against Sweden, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Saw the first game he played for West Ham and he looked decent, bit of fire back in his belly, but seems to have gone downhill since. Think there's still a very good player in there somewhere. Can bring him back in the summer, help us get promoted again.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Unless Carroll has an absolutely brilliant season at West Ham, i honestly can't see why we would want him back. Even if he suits a style Pardew wants to implement. Like i said back in the summer; i think the Carroll thing was PR. If we'd re-signed the lad for half the price, it would've made us look mint and Liverpool like mugs; regardless of the player's ability. If he was any other player, he wouldn't suit the transfer policy they so rigidly stick to. I agree, unless it's for peanuts then I'm worried it will be a poor signing for us. He doesn't fit the wide striker mould and Cisse surely is our main main the centre? Unless we are going back to 4-4-2 or want that as another option I guess. Carroll ironically did stick in some good crosses when out wide for us, but like his goal scoring for us I've not really seen much of him back to his old self at all. I'm also really worried he's too injury prone. Shola, Taylor, Carroll. The only three local lads who've come through the academy (since the 90s) and 'made it' in this division. All injury prone. All of them big, all of them slow, all of them assertive to compensate for lack of other qualities. Makes you wonder what we're looking for at the academy. Carroll's the only genuine talent of the 3 of them, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Unless Carroll has an absolutely brilliant season at West Ham, i honestly can't see why we would want him back. Even if he suits a style Pardew wants to implement. Like i said back in the summer; i think the Carroll thing was PR. If we'd re-signed the lad for half the price, it would've made us look mint and Liverpool like mugs; regardless of the player's ability. If he was any other player, he wouldn't suit the transfer policy they so rigidly stick to. I agree, unless it's for peanuts then I'm worried it will be a poor signing for us. He doesn't fit the wide striker mould and Cisse surely is our main main the centre? Unless we are going back to 4-4-2 or want that as another option I guess. Carroll ironically did stick in some good crosses when out wide for us, but like his goal scoring for us I've not really seen much of him back to his old self at all. I'm also really worried he's too injury prone. Shola, Taylor, Carroll. The only three local lads who've come through the academy (since the 90s) and 'made it' in this division. All injury prone. All of them big, all of them slow, all of them assertive to compensate for lack of other qualities. Makes you wonder what we're looking for at the academy. Carroll's the only genuine talent of the 3 of them, to be fair. In England till very recently it's been 'big strong lads' who can kick it up the pitch the furthest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Taylor's got more to his game than you have indicated above. Not suggesting he is the next Beckenbauer, but you are making sound like some league 2 clogger. He is far better on the ball thab you are giving him credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 He's pretty average with the ball to be fair. If you give Colo a 10, Saylor is a 6, and Willo is a 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Steven Taylor is a very good defender who's given us quite a lot of good performances over the years. If not for his injuries I'd think we'd thought higher of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 For various reasons he's never actually proved himself as a very good defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Carroll was dog shit at SJP for West Ham, absolutely do not want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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