Guest neesy111 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Steven Taylor is a very good defender who's given us quite a lot of good performances over the years. If not for his injuries I'd think we'd thought higher of him. He's never been a very good defender. He's always liable to a fuck up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 He's pretty average with the ball to be fair. If you give Colo a 10, Saylor is a 6, and Willo is a 1. 6 out of 10 is OK for a CB though really, especially if his actual defending is any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Steven Taylor is a very good defender who's given us quite a lot of good performances over the years. If not for his injuries I'd think we'd thought higher of him. He's never been a very good defender. He's always liable to a f*** up. I have to agree on that. It seems more that we wish he was a very good defender, rather than he actually is. He's certainly better than Williamson and he's had quite a few good performances with us over the years, but he's nowhere near the likes of Coloccini tbh. With good guidance and leadership he seems to step up his game anyway, he was much much better playing alongside the captain than with Willo when Colo was out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 It is arguable to say Taylor is a better footballer than Carroll. The latter earn us big money though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 It always happens that people are liable to big up players that come through our youth system mainly because we have fuck all coming through. Only at the start of last season I thought taylor looked a good defender and reliable, otherwise he's just about good enough for the PL if he would be fit most of the time. He is probably our best attacking CB we've had for a while though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Same with Sammy who i don't think willl ever become a class player, just doesn't have a footballing brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Same with Sammy who i don't think willl ever become a class player, just doesn't have a footballing brain. He's league 1 standard at the moment. He should be nowhere near our 1st team squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Sky Sports understands a number of Premier League sides are weighing up moves for Lyon ace Michel Bastos when the transfer window reopens next month. The Brazil international has enjoyed a fine season to date with Lyon and has been instrumental in their title bid this term, with Lyon currently joint-top of Ligue 1 alongside Paris St Germain. However, Lyon chairman Jean-Michel Aulas revealed earlier this week he would consider selling Bastos for the right price in January in a bid to reduce the wage bill at Stade Gerland. The news has alerted a host of Premier League sides to Bastos' possible availability in the New Year with the 29-year-old an attractive proposition for his suitors as he can play on the left wing or at left-back. The likes of Liverpool, Tottenham and Newcastle have all held a long-term interest in Bastos and they are thought to be keeping tabs on his situation at Lyon yeah right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I don't know why everyone thinks it's so impossible that we'll sign any good players, when we've recently signed people like the captain of the French Champions and one of the most prolific scorers in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I don't know why everyone thinks it's so impossible that we'll sign any good players, when we've recently signed people like the captain of the French Champions and one of the most prolific scorers in Germany. get with the programme man ian, any good rumours are bullshit, any negative rumours are to be treat as gospel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I do think it's unlikely/impossible that we'll sign Bastos considering his age and price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I do think it's unlikely/impossible that we'll sign Bastos considering his age and price. Wages & interest from elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 That as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Fair enough, I just think sometimes people should explain that rather than just trotting out the same old negative lines. I'm not saying it's likely we'll sign any individual player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Steven Taylor is a very good defender who's given us quite a lot of good performances over the years. If not for his injuries I'd think we'd thought higher of him. He's never been a very good defender. He's always liable to a f*** up. all defenders are liable to fuck up. in fact i cant think of many of taylors in the mindless sending off at liverpool/following long for no reason and getting raped/allwoing rodallega a free header from a set piece style. colo is the better defender right now but he is just as liable to fuck ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 get with the programme man ian, any good rumours are bullshit, any negative rumours are to be treat as gospel. Quite a few people seem to think we're going to sign Remy, or is that a negative rumour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 get with the programme man ian, any good rumours are bullshit, any negative rumours are to be treat as gospel. Quite a few people seem to think we're going to sign Remy, or is that a negative rumour? most seem to be treating it as a rumour "if" he comes, as opposed to "when" ba goes type attitudes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 most seem to be treating it as a rumour "if" he comes, as opposed to "when" ba goes type attitudes. It's not being treated as "Bullshit" and a decent player coming in is positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 most seem to be treating it as a rumour "if" he comes, as opposed to "when" ba goes type attitudes. It's not being treated as "Bullshit" and a decent player coming in is positive. take a look in the remy thread. plenty of negative spin in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I don't know why everyone thinks it's so impossible that we'll sign any good players, when we've recently signed people like the captain of the French Champions and one of the most prolific scorers in Germany. French champions? I'd rather say he was playing at Lille. In France it's not so rare that random (crap) clubs win the title (just look at how good the mighty Montpellier did in the Champions League and how good they are doing in the league this year...), that doesn't make them top clubs. Cissè was playing for Freiburg: yes, he was prolific, but there are dozens of prolific players playing for lower clubs around Europe, and they don't always have many big clubs chasing after them. Cissè didn't, and that's why we signed him. Bastos is a different story, he's been linked for years with all the european top clubs, he's not exactly a mostly unknown lower german side's player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I wasn't being negative, more laughing at that piece from sky. Difference between being an optimist/realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 most seem to be treating it as a rumour "if" he comes, as opposed to "when" ba goes type attitudes. It's not being treated as "Bullshit" and a decent player coming in is positive. take a look in the remy thread. plenty of negative spin in there. But I think that's because we're kind of used to read about endless negotiations that eventually lead to nothing. Of course after a while you are liable to be cautious when you hear this kind of rumours... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hilarious from madras who created this thread in the first place, a thread that now has over 35,000 posts. 99%+ of incoming rumours are total bollocks, of course it's overly negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hilarious from madras who created this thread in the first place, a thread that now has over 35,000 posts. 99%+ of incoming rumours are total bollocks, of course it's overly negative. shouldn't the negativity be directed at the press and not the club then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 You're the one who reckons we can't afford to buy £6m players. Anyway: I wasn't being negative, more laughing at that piece from sky. Difference between being an optimist/realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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