duo Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Going to be like last summer I feel. They think they've done their spend in jan even though that was making up for the lack of spend in the summer. Can feel history repeating itself. They'll give it the big 'am happy cause no one left' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Everything's coming up milhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 The depressing thing is thinking about what we're aiming for. We patently don't want to win a cup or qualify for the EL again, so where does that leave us? We were fortunate last season that Chelsea and Liverpool in particular had ridiculously bad, controversy-ridden seasons; this season Liverpool improved by 9pts and +21GD; Chelsea improved by 11pts and +17GD. Liverpool have had the player of the year and yet arguably play better without him and look likely to make a fortune on moving him on. Chelsea have brought Mourinho back and will presumably back him with silly money. This year you've got to think Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea will be top three in any order and Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs and Everton will make up the rest of the 'good sides' - at least three of which are miles ahead of us in terms of squad strength, spending and pulling power. We're constantly told that we can't compete with the sovereign states, but in reality we're struggling to keep up with the chasing pack too. The Champions League spots look totally out of question now. And it's been purely out of choice IMO - failing to invest properly last summer has totally wasted that unexpected 5th place and keeping Pardew is akin to admitting defeat going forward in favour of saving further money. I'm looking forward to next season already, but the stark truth is that we're now trying to finish ahead of the likes of West Ham and Swansea City. That's it. That said, it's nothing new isn't it. Ashley's tenure has been nothing but a gradual lowering of expectations and a series of blunders and penny pinching. It's not Ashely's tenure, either. It was around the same time that Abramovich/Mourinho entered Chelsea, Rafa enter Liverpool and Robson was replaced with Souness. We made our mistakes at a crucial time. Since that point the competitive clubs have been Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Manchester United, and Liverpool, with Man City joining them when they became the world's richest clubs. Everton have stayed in and around the top half without actually achieving anything of note. Clubs like ourselves and Villa have mounted decent challenges through either unsustainable spending or shrewd transfer moves, but it hasn't lasted. Those seven clubs have been the most successful for almost a decade now and are set up to dominate for the near future. We have to do something drastic to alter the hierarchy. One thing I will say is that this "Liverpool better without Suarez" talk is nonsense. They beat a team that had already been relegated in last place, a team that had capitulated and maybe deserved relegation, and a Fulham team that weren't mathematically safe until Wigan lost to Arsenal. Is this meant to impress me? The idea seems to mostly stem from the 0-6 against us, but we all watched the match and it didn't finish that way because Daniel Sturridge saw more of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Shepherd and Hall can be accused of many things, but a lack of ambition is not one of them tbh baba... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 There is going to be a story from Mark Douglas on the player that shares his surname in The Journal tomorrow so it looks like this might be the first real link of the summer. Douglas's surname is Teixeira. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Shepherd and Hall can be accused of many things, but a lack of ambition is not one of them tbh baba... Of course, they deserve praise for bringing us success in the 90's and early part of last decade. I just wonder what you think would have changed after 2006-2007 if Shepard was in charge. Go back to that time, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Manchester United look unassailable, these are the days of the "big four". One season passes before Manchester City are the richest club in the world. Allardyce was Shepard's appointment, and he was backed and given control over our transfers in that first window. We saw how things progressed that season. What would change? We might have spent more and a competent/experienced owner and board probably would have avoided relegation, but we were still stretching ourselves financially to pay for inferior players at a time when the competition in the league was fiercening to unforeseen levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Douglas on a free would be an excellent piece of business. Just what we need. Would be a fantastic set of CBs to choose from if Colo stays, hope it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Douglas on a free would be an excellent piece of business. Just what we need. I'd argue we wouldn't need any other defenders if Colo stays (massive question of course), given the versatility of Santon and Yanga-Mbiwa, and the ability to recall the likes of Ferguson and Tavernier from the loans they ought to be on if the club has any sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Douglas on a free would be an excellent piece of business. Just what we need. I'd argue we wouldn't need any other defenders if Colo stays (massive question of course), given the versatility of Santon and Yanga-Mbiwa, and the ability to recall the likes of Ferguson and Tavernier from the loans they ought to be on if the club has any sense. Definitely, would be a great move and we could concentrate any money we have on forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If Colo stays CB is least of our problems. STRIKERS STRIKERS STRIKERS WINGERS WINGERS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If Colo stays CB is least of our problems. STRIKERS STRIKERS STRIKERS WINGERS WINGERS. It's not our biggest problem position imo, providing Colo stays, but Douglas on a free is too good to pass up on. He's of the required quality, a good age, and he brings characteristics to the table that we lack, which makes us vulnerable against strong forwards, especially with Saylor being so injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Ryder reckons Cardiff are in for Williamson for £2m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 And we'll let him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If we didn't get rid of anyone worthwhile (including Colo) and just signed a quality wide player and forward I don't think I would be that fussed tbh. Krul, Santon, Haidara, Debuchy, Saylor, Colo, MYM, Debuchy, Cabaye, Tiote, Sissoko, Marveaux, Anita, Ben Arfa, Gouffran, Cisse, New wide player, new CF. That is 18 players who should be good enough to be 1st team starters. Elliott, Perch and Bigi I have no concerns about, maybe even Jonas in a more central position, so it's the likes of Ferguson, Sammy, Tavernier, Campbell, Obertan, Shola Dummett, Good, Inman, Vuckic, Gosling, Abeid etc.. filling in very occasionally. The first 4 it would actually be quite promising to see. Serious lack of goals in that team. If the new CF is Messi and wide player is Bale it will do Seriously though I do think we have goals in this team, we just don't play a style to give them a chance. I think Cisse, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Marveaux, Gouffran and Sissoko could all chip in with more than they did last season. Far worse players in this league seem to get their fair share. 6 in 26 and 3 in 12 are great returns for two central midfielders, both had a better ratio than Yaya Touré for example... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 £2m, i'll get my tandem out and pick him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Ryder reckons Cardiff are in for Williamson for £2m. Yes please. Douglas would be a great upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'll give him a piggy back to Cardiff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Peter Whittingham corner floated to Willo back-post is all part of Malky's plans for PL survival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'll give him a piggy back to Cardiff. Doubtful, given that his feet can't leave the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 It will be funny when he scores several goals from corners, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 It will be funny when he scores several goals from corners, mind. I can just see him picking up like 6 goals next season...Terry-esque.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 It will be funny when he scores several goals from corners, mind. He's definitely one of the most prolific defenders of his generation. http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7987/screenshot20130611at110.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 He's a lucky motherfucker to have ended up at Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 He's a lucky motherfucker to have ended up at Newcastle. He served a purpose time to move him on now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 He's a lucky motherfucker to have ended up at Newcastle. He's just not cut out for the top level. Should've been binned in summer 2011. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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