ponsaelius Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hoillett would be a good player going forward, talented. Right now though he is ridiculously naive tactically and when out of possession, probably one of the worst in the league for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I know that it seems that 2+2=4 when it comes to good players shining in bad teams and that they should only get better when they go to a better team, but that doesn't always happen. SWP, N'Zogbia, David Bentley and quite a few others have all been hot property and then been shit at the next level. Obviously there are no hard and fast rules, but you just never know with players that do well in bad teams, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 When did Zog go up a level? I get your point though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Wigan to Aston Villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Would we still have to pay compensation with it being after 30th June and stuff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Would we still have to pay compensation with it being after 30th June and stuff? yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Mike, back to the NBA thread. Your opinion of Obertan is fucking shit. Eat shit and die you rat motherfucker. He's quality. He's just bad at doing the right thing. Fuck you Shak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hoiletts been class anytime ive seen him like. Bit baffled there are people who cant see why hes rated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Wigan to Aston Villa Debatable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Just to add to the confusion :- http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/newcastle-may-have-most-to-gain-from-handing-sakho-a-psg-exit_110055.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Do we pay less compensation than we would've if Blackburn stayed up? I remember reading there were new rules that meant lower league sides lost their youngsters for less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Do we pay less compensation than we would've if Blackburn stayed up? I remember reading there were new rules that meant lower league sides lost their youngsters for less. no idea but doubt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Do we pay less compensation than we would've if Blackburn stayed up? I remember reading there were new rules that meant lower league sides lost their youngsters for less. Sounds familiar, couldn't be any more backwards of an idea though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hoillett would be a good player going forward, talented. Right now though he is ridiculously naive tactically and when out of possession, probably one of the worst in the league for it. On the handful of times I saw him last season...this is exactly what I thought. But a handful of times isn't enough for me to say definitively. I'll have to bow to the opinion of others. It's the type of thing that doesn't get noticed on MOTD, same as him trying stuff and it failing won't get shown. He's a good prospect who I'd definitely be happy with, but he's got a lot of things to work in. If Pardew doesn't like Ben Arfa off the ball he will hate Hoilett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Just to add to the confusion :- http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/newcastle-may-have-most-to-gain-from-handing-sakho-a-psg-exit_110055.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Mike, back to the NBA thread. Your opinion of Obertan is fucking shit. Eat shit and die you rat motherfucker. He's quality. He's just bad at doing the right thing. Fuck you Shak. I respect the effort, have to say. You don't tend to come out with very strong opinions on football, then you burst in here with a "I think Obertan is brilliant!" post. Game changer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hoillett would be a good player going forward, talented. Right now though he is ridiculously naive tactically and when out of possession, probably one of the worst in the league for it. On the handful of times I saw him last season...this is exactly what I thought. But a handful of times isn't enough for me to say definitively. I'll have to bow to the opinion of others. It's the type of thing that doesn't get noticed on MOTD, same as him trying stuff and it failing won't get shown. He's a good prospect who I'd definitely be happy with, but he's got a lot of things to work in. If Pardew doesn't like Ben Arfa off the ball he will hate Hoilett. Thing will be though, Pardew simply won't play him if he doesnt do the work just like Ben Arfa didn't play. That's what i liked about our team under Pardew. Everyone has to put in a shift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 hoilett would be a great signing, could really offer us something for the 433 formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Just to add to the confusion :- http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/newcastle-may-have-most-to-gain-from-handing-sakho-a-psg-exit_110055.html As mentioned hours ago thats not a transfer story its a rubbish suggestion by some random bloke with absolutely no substance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Ladbrokes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Just to add to the confusion :- http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/newcastle-may-have-most-to-gain-from-handing-sakho-a-psg-exit_110055.html As mentioned hours ago thats not a transfer story its a rubbish suggestion by some random bloke with absolutely no substance. I'm struggling to see how thats not a transfer story these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Just to add to the confusion :- http://news.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/football/premier-league/newcastle-may-have-most-to-gain-from-handing-sakho-a-psg-exit_110055.html As mentioned hours ago thats not a transfer story its a rubbish suggestion by some random bloke with absolutely no substance. I'm struggling to see how thats not a transfer story these days Its below nufcblog as far as they go tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Mike, back to the NBA thread. Your opinion of Obertan is fucking shit. Eat shit and die you rat motherfucker. He's quality. He's just bad at doing the right thing. Fuck you Shak. I respect the effort, have to say. You don't tend to come out with very strong opinions on football, then you burst in here with a "I think Obertan is brilliant!" post. Game changer. Absolute dickhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hoiletts been class anytime ive seen him like. Bit baffled there are people who cant see why hes rated. opposite when Ive seen him, he's done some good stuff in games but i've yet to see him actually have a decent game. no denying he's got talent but you need more than talent alone. this is reminiscent of the david bentley thing a few years back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Hoilett's a good player with absolutely boatloads of potential. If Pardew could instil the work ethic we've got going on at the moment, we'd have a fantastic player on our hands a couple years down the line. He'd have to work for his place, meaning the most important thing to consider if making him an offer would be his frame of mind. I dare say he could go to many other clubs and immediately be first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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