Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 it's becoming clearer by the day that those in control are actively involved in some kind of sabotage. genuine question but how did you reach this conclusion? A more pertinent question, considering the information and evidence available to us all, would be: How can anyone not reach that conclusion? so no evidence of anything = evidence now does it? /inochi Pardew has repeatedly stated he wants players including some he has personally identified, no players are forthcoming & bids for players have been at best thin on ground despite a 'specialist' (who happens to be an ally of the owner) being appointed to oversee such activity. I think it's easy to assume what Inochi stated. Add that to the increasingly bemused reportings of the 'inside circle' of journalists, too. Something is well and truly up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Where? Everywhere basically http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Where? Everywhere basically http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation You could get 12/1 last week. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Where? Everywhere basically http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Ahh yes. 9.4 on Betfair. Having just looked at our fixtures I think I'm gonna wait until late September to get my money on just before the Everton game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 nah Good talk. was just a wee dig at you always playing devil's advocate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Where? Everywhere basically http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Ahh yes. 9.4 on Betfair. Having just looked at our fixtures I think I'm gonna wait until late September to get my money on just before the Everton game. 13 on Betfair fixed odds. /not that I approve... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 it's becoming clearer by the day that those in control are actively involved in some kind of sabotage. genuine question but how did you reach this conclusion? A more pertinent question, considering the information and evidence available to us all, would be: How can anyone not reach that conclusion? so no evidence of anything = evidence now does it? /inochi Pardew has repeatedly stated he wants players including some he has personally identified, no players are forthcoming & bids for players have been at best thin on ground despite a 'specialist' (who happens to be an ally of the owner) being appointed to oversee such activity. I think it's easy to assume what Inochi stated. Add that to the increasingly bemused reportings of the 'inside circle' of journalists, too. Something is well and truly up. why does it have to be sabotage? could just be basic incompetence from all concerned at that level or ashley not willing to release funds for the type of player we want to buy at this stage it's also possible joe is still operating in a pre-transfer window football existence so he's not in any hurry to sign anyone as we can get them in october anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Where? Everywhere basically http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Ahh yes. 9.4 on Betfair. Having just looked at our fixtures I think I'm gonna wait until late September to get my money on just before the Everton game. 13 on Betfair fixed odds. /not that I approve... Aye, fully intend on trading out though. I'm not convinced we'll actually go down, but I am convinced we'll flirt with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 it's becoming clearer by the day that those in control are actively involved in some kind of sabotage. genuine question but how did you reach this conclusion? A more pertinent question, considering the information and evidence available to us all, would be: How can anyone not reach that conclusion? so no evidence of anything = evidence now does it? /inochi Pardew has repeatedly stated he wants players including some he has personally identified, no players are forthcoming & bids for players have been at best thin on ground despite a 'specialist' (who happens to be an ally of the owner) being appointed to oversee such activity. I think it's easy to assume what Inochi stated. Add that to the increasingly bemused reportings of the 'inside circle' of journalists, too. Something is well and truly up. why does it have to be sabotage? could just be basic incompetence from all concerned at that level or ashley not willing to release funds for the type of player we want to buy at this stage it's also possible joe is still operating in a pre-transfer window football existence so he's not in any hurry to sign anyone as we can get them in october anyway It doesn't have to be anything. That's just what I think it is, based on the information available to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 This is starting to feel like one of those windows where we'll end up drawing on the talents of a Sibierski or Shefki Kuqi at the last second. There's still a bit of time left, but I'm starting to feel those vibes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 yes and my question was what information? and there is very little - it's a reasonable conclusion i'm aware but it also inherently implies that ashley is willing to risk relegation in order to get rid of alan pardew...even on an 7 year contract paying it up to sack him would cost a lot less than relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 We are so relegated. 17/2 ... get amongst it. Where? Everywhere basically http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Ahh yes. 9.4 on Betfair. Having just looked at our fixtures I think I'm gonna wait until late September to get my money on just before the Everton game. 13 on Betfair fixed odds. /not that I approve... Aye, fully intend on trading out though. I'm not convinced we'll actually go down, but I am convinced we'll flirt with it. Ah, gotcha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I'm trying to remember how long there is to go. It is getting concerning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 yes and my question was what information? and there is very little - it's a reasonable conclusion i'm aware but it also inherently implies that ashley is willing to risk relegation in order to get rid of alan pardew...even on an 7 year contract paying it up to sack him would cost a lot less than relegation Are you just trying to argue with me for the sake of it? I've already answered that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 At this point, I'd just be happy with no major sales + Remy. Woulden't be too disasterous if we just got Remy as long as we got Cisse sorted again. Which is an horrendous situation for us. I'd be relived if we just got Remy as he is the one player we really need the most, as he can create. No point having 2 or 3 out and out goal scorers if we are not creating anything for them. Plus remy could play as the main striker as well as any of the attacking positions. Perhaps try Goufran up top and Remy on the wing too or just behind if AP opts for 442. He just gives us creative options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Interesting line in Caulkin's latest article... I’m directly aware of one transfer which is good to go in just about every sense but which is being held up because “the people above (Pardew) are the problem.” I'm now of the opinion we're not signing anyone this summer. Kinnear doesn't want to strengthen the team and potentially Pardew's position when his only concern is getting back in the dugout. And I don't imagine the owner is too upset that his mate Joe is telling him to put his wallet away. That will probably be Bent as Caulkin got to know him very well when he was up here and has kept in touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Even Ashley must realise that we will be a nailed on cert to go down with Gouffran, Shola and Campbell as our striking options. Surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Ashley and Kinnear want Pardew gone, Pardew in turn would let them sell his entire first eleven and wouldn't say a dickie bird just so long as he gets his pay off, us fans are just caught in the cross fire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I think it's more likely that Kinnear just isn't capable of doing his job. Or he can't read or write. Or he's sat on the phone talking to his local pizza takeaway wondering why they won't let him buy Darren Bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 yes and my question was what information? and there is very little - it's a reasonable conclusion i'm aware but it also inherently implies that ashley is willing to risk relegation in order to get rid of alan pardew...even on an 7 year contract paying it up to sack him would cost a lot less than relegation Are you just trying to argue with me for the sake of it? I've already answered that. nah man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Even Ashley must realise that we will be a nailed on cert to go down with Gouffran, Shola and Campbell as our striking options. Surely. I am holding onto this as well. It may or may not be true! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Where is Campbell being rumored to go on loan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Where is Campbell being rumored to go on loan? Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Where is Campbell being rumored to go on loan? Championship. He will play one game for every team in the championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Where is Campbell being rumored to go on loan? Championship. He will play one game for every team in the championship Obviously not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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