Papiss Cissé

[LFEE]

[Lush Vlad]

Unless he turns it around by managing to knock a few goals in in the next few games.  He can fuck right off.  On last night's showing, I think I'd genuinely have Gouffran starting over him.  Absolutely pathetic from him.  Never ready for the ball, didn't chase anything down, first touch worse than usual and just looked disinterested all night.

 

I know we're short of options, but how he stayed on for 90 minutes is beyond me.

[Unbelievable]

Hang on a second. Only a few weeks ago the majority on here were dead set against selling him (and replacing with Austin or AN Other) as Papiss Cisse supposedly was our only dependable source for goals, despite the fact that he only managed an average of 7 PL goals per season over the past three seasons whilst adding absolutely nothing positive to our general play. This season he has bundled another goal in and so is still averaging what he has done in his time here bar the first six months. What has changed for people to suddenly be so vitriolic? His style has always been languish and seemingly disinterested, his first touch has always been rubbish and his hold up play has always been non-existent. Yesterday evening was nothing new really; it's what I've been witnessing for the past few years and I would go as far as to say if Mitrovic doesn't sort himself out real soon we are in serious trouble again this season.

[Lush Vlad]

I've never seen it that bad.  He's always had a s*** first touch, snatched at chances from improbable angles/distances and been offside about 5-6 times a game.  But last night, he was visibly disinterested and didn't even react to anything.  I think Cisse from last year, would have reacted to some of the deflections in the box.  Every time it broke to him or came through to him, it was like he was a second or two too slow to react and just totally unaware of what was going on around him. 

 

Final straw was near the end.  When in fairness to our merry team of useless f***ers.  Most of them were actually chasing the ball and pressing.  Cisse was just stood up top, barely even walking about.  Now if he'd been working like a dog all game, then fair enough.  But I'm not sure he even broke into a sprint last night.

[Mr Logic]

If he was wanting to fight for his place that chance should be gone now.

[TRon]

Hang on a second. Only a few weeks ago the majority on here were dead set against selling him (and replacing with Austin or AN Other) as Papiss Cisse supposedly was our only dependable source for goals, despite the fact that he only managed an average of 7 PL goals per season over the past three seasons whilst adding absolutely nothing positive to our general play. This season he has bundled another goal in and so is still averaging what he has done in his time here bar the first six months. What has changed for people to suddenly be so vitriolic? His style has always been languish and seemingly disinterested, his first touch has always been rubbish and his hold up play has always been non-existent. Yesterday evening was nothing new really; it's what I've been witnessing for the past few years and I would go as far as to say if Mitrovic doesn't sort himself out real soon we are in serious trouble again this season.

 

Nothing's changed for me, I've heard this all before. He's still the only striker we've got who looks like scoring goals, given some half decent service which he's still not getting.  I don't make any claims that he's some great all round target man either, but with Mitrovic out, there's no one else who you can put in there who might get in goal scoring positions and put the chances away. Even Mitrovic still has to show he can do that in the premier by the way.

[Crumpy Gunt]

I think I've mentioned it before but...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[move]HE IS FUCKING SHITE[/move]

[Unbelievable]

Ayoze Perez scored 7 PL goals last season often not playing as the central striker, same as Cisse's record over the past three seasons. He's not ideally suited for the role, but at least he can trap a ball and get other players involved and at this stage I would trust him more to put the ball in the net if a chance fell to him than Cisse. After last season's debut season Ayoze didn't deserve to be dropped, let alone to be benched for another forward who offers absolutely nothing. That said, it was madness in the first place for people to suggest that we needed to keep Cisse as he was guaranteed to get us goals. At this point he offers little more than Gouffran or Riviere would.

[TRon]

Ayoze Perez scored 7 PL goals last season often not playing as the central striker. He's not ideally suited for the role, but at least he can trap a ball and get other players involved. After last season's debut season he doesn't deserve to be dropped, let alone to be benched for another forward who offers absolutely nothing. That said, it was madness in the first place for people to suggest that we needed to keep Cisse as he was guaranteed to get us goals. At this point he offers little more than Gouffran or Riviere would.

 

Perez is a good player, but even yesterday we saw he is much more effective when he's played a little deeper where he can be more involved. As for Gouffran and Riviere, unless you are suggesting we start them up front, I'm not going to take that seriously.

[Gallowgate Toon]

de Jong is a player with presence and a bit of movement and can link play, would genuinely consider putting him up front for the next 2 and playing Perez behind. Perez would be the real threat but would be allowed much more space and can dictate things, rather than getting double-marked all game.

[Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast]

As good as his goal scoring record is, his style of playing football just doesn't fit a side who wants to play patient passing football. His control and passing are just too erratic and his physical presence barely existent. He's more useful if we pair him with another striker and get the ball upfront as fast as possible.

[Ikon]

Cissé is disgusting!

[xLiaaamx]

He's fucking shite. Whats the point of being a good finisher if you're basically playing DM for the opponent's?

[buzza]

Ayoze Perez scored 7 PL goals last season often not playing as the central striker, same as Cisse's record over the past three seasons. He's not ideally suited for the role, but at least he can trap a ball and get other players involved and at this stage I would trust him more to put the ball in the net if a chance fell to him than Cisse. After last season's debut season Ayoze didn't deserve to be dropped, let alone to be benched for another forward who offers absolutely nothing. That said, it was madness in the first place for people to suggest that we needed to keep Cisse as he was guaranteed to get us goals. At this point he offers little more than Gouffran or Riviere would.

This X10

[Unbelievable]

As good as his goal scoring record is, his style of playing football just doesn't fit a side who wants to play patient passing football. His control and passing are just too erratic and his physical presence barely existent. He's more useful if we pair him with another striker and get the ball upfront as fast as possible.

 

 

I could probably live with all the mentioned flaws to his game if his goal record was as good as you suggest, which to me would be somewhere near 15 PL goals a season or more, but it really isn't.

[Bada Bing]

Still haven't come to terms how poor he was last night. He just doesn't give a s***.

[ExiledGeordie]

Still haven't come to terms how poor he was last night. He just doesn't give a s***.

 

Yep a combination of past it, disinterested and not suited to the way we're playing. Awful

[samptime29]

Worst performance I've ever seen from him.

 

Proper turd.

[Guest antz1uk]

CIsse is shit at starting games as he is absolutely useless when it comes to staying onside or actually needing to control a ball, he couldn't trap a bag of cement, he should only be used as an impact sub with around 20 minutes to go

[Hanshithispantz]

Hang on a second. Only a few weeks ago the majority on here were dead set against selling him (and replacing with Austin or AN Other) as Papiss Cisse supposedly was our only dependable source for goals, despite the fact that he only managed an average of 7 PL goals per season over the past three seasons whilst adding absolutely nothing positive to our general play. This season he has bundled another goal in and so is still averaging what he has done in his time here bar the first six months. What has changed for people to suddenly be so vitriolic? His style has always been languish and seemingly disinterested, his first touch has always been rubbish and his hold up play has always been non-existent. Yesterday evening was nothing new really; it's what I've been witnessing for the past few years and I would go as far as to say if Mitrovic doesn't sort himself out real soon we are in serious trouble again this season.

The problem was that if we replaced Cisse with Austin we would still only have 1 recognisable Premiership striker We've since signed Mitrovic, but we'd still only have 2 strikers. Which is insane.

 

Cisse was absolutely horrible last night, so bad that I actually think I hate him now, something which has't happened since Guthrie's performance against West Brom. But there was still no need to get rid of him.

[Kanj]

Hang on a second. Only a few weeks ago the majority on here were dead set against selling him (and replacing with Austin or AN Other) as Papiss Cisse supposedly was our only dependable source for goals, despite the fact that he only managed an average of 7 PL goals per season over the past three seasons whilst adding absolutely nothing positive to our general play. This season he has bundled another goal in and so is still averaging what he has done in his time here bar the first six months. What has changed for people to suddenly be so vitriolic? His style has always been languish and seemingly disinterested, his first touch has always been rubbish and his hold up play has always been non-existent. Yesterday evening was nothing new really; it's what I've been witnessing for the past few years and I would go as far as to say if Mitrovic doesn't sort himself out real soon we are in serious trouble again this season.

 

What's changed is last night's performance was fucking abysmal and I haven't seen him play THAT bad for us ever. He also used to look like he gave a shit, but last night, it was a heartless performance. There are times when I forgave shit b/c they'd be playing under Pardew or Carver but its a new season, new manager, and new group of players around you. That's whats changed for me.

[gav24]

One of the worst performances I've ever seen from one of our strikers and I've seen some shite play for us 

[Twinport53]

Love how he just lay on the floor after that pathetic attempt at a bicycle kick

[Pilko]

My feeling is that he'll be infuriatingly dogshit and we'll be all be begging for Perez to play up top after ten minutes of the West Ham game.

[KaKa]

Been complaining about this clown for ages. It's almost impossible to have a good team performance with him upfront, because it is impossible to involve him in any kind of general play.

 

Perez, Riviere or Gouffran upfront if they are available, ahead of this guy. They will do far more to help our midfielders get up the pitch and try and produce some quality around the box.

 

Cisse really is a complete embarrassment at this point.