Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I miss last season's Cisse. People keep banging on about lack of service and having played wide for a few matches, but the fact of the matter is unfortunately he has been missing very good chances all season long. If we are going to persist with 4-3-3/4-5-1 the sole centre forward needs to be scoring regularly and keeping the ball up well for the midfield and wide players to get involved. At the moment, Cisse is doing neither I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Some decent competition for his place in the side wouldn't go amiss, this summer. Seems to be doing wonders everywhere else over the park. I didn't agree before and just wanted strikers like Gouffran to assist him and then replace him when he can't play. I'm coming around to this line of thinking now though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I miss last season's Cisse. People keep banging on about lack of service and having played wide for a few matches, but the fact of the matter is unfortunately he has been missing very good chances all season long. If we are going to persist with 4-3-3/4-5-1 the sole centre forward needs to be scoring regularly and keeping the ball up well for the midfield and wide players to get involved. At the moment, Cisse is doing neither I'm afraid. I would like to see a list of these "very good" chances that he's been missing all season. The service to him as been pretty poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Some decent competition for his place in the side wouldn't go amiss, this summer. Seems to be doing wonders everywhere else over the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I miss last season's Cisse. People keep banging on about lack of service and having played wide for a few matches, but the fact of the matter is unfortunately he has been missing very good chances all season long. If we are going to persist with 4-3-3/4-5-1 the sole centre forward needs to be scoring regularly and keeping the ball up well for the midfield and wide players to get involved. At the moment, Cisse is doing neither I'm afraid. I would like to see a list of these "very good" chances that he's been missing all season. The service to him as been pretty poor. I'm not going to compile you a list just because you suffer from amnesia. Just in January alone he has missed at least five very good goalscoring opportunities, often through not even getting the ball on target. This service argument is very misguided too, he could have got service from Sissoko today when they were both on the break, but he decided to run in Moussa's shadow rather than create space for himself. He's hopelessly out of form. If you can't see that I don't know what you're watching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He had 1 chance today and was (from what I saw) unfairly judged offside when he would have been in 1 on 1 in another. Honestly we just need to forget the first half of the season and start judging players from afresh, and Cisse since the new signings have arrived has looked a better player imo, he needs goals obviously but I don't think he's exactly missing sitter after sitter, he had one header today after he pealed away from the defence, but because he missed his target everyone immediately jumps to call him a knacker, regardless of how difficult the chance actually was. It was happening against Villa and Chelsea too. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He had 1 chance today and was (from what I saw) unfairly judged offside when he would have been in 1 on 1 in another. Honestly we just need to forget the first half of the season and start judging players from afresh, and Cisse since the new signings have arrived has looked a better player imo, he needs goals obviously but I don't think he's exactly missing sitter after sitter, he had one header today after he pealed away from the defence, but because he missed his target everyone immediately jumps to call him a knacker, regardless of how difficult the chance actually was. It was happening against Villa and Chelsea too. . good post and how I sees it too. Cisse has played better but is still lacking the outrageous goal scoring form from last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He had nobody anywhere near him when Gouffran went off and we went back to the Norwich rubbish. Need Gouffran to be ok and Hatem to come back. Beyond those 2 Obertan is the only player fit for a wide role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'm about as forgiving as it gets when it comes to Cisse, but man he was trash today. Basic ball control was nowhere to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He had nobody anywhere near him when Gouffran went off and we went back to the Norwich rubbish. Need Gouffran to be ok and Hatem to come back. Beyond those 2 Obertan is the only player fit for a wide role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He had 1 chance today and was (from what I saw) unfairly judged offside when he would have been in 1 on 1 in another. Honestly we just need to forget the first half of the season and start judging players from afresh, and Cisse since the new signings have arrived has looked a better player imo, he needs goals obviously but I don't think he's exactly missing sitter after sitter, he had one header today after he pealed away from the defence, but because he missed his target everyone immediately jumps to call him a knacker, regardless of how difficult the chance actually was. It was happening against Villa and Chelsea too. . The run was offside, but it was a good run tbh. That header from the Colo cross though, he had so much space and time, to not even work the 'keeper is criminal for a top striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I only saw him have one chance all game and it wasn't the easiest of headers either.... Yes he was bad for majority of season but his all round game and performances have improved since Ba left but i do agree some competition wouldn't go a miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He's becoming a very limited player for us if he isn't scoring. We need to upgrade to a better all-rounder in the summer. Mind the service to him has been poor all season, that and playing him wide at times and the constant fucking long ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That wasn't an easy chance at all man, the cross had some pace and was pretty high. Give it up, he's not bang out of form at all, his recent scoring record has been ok and some of performances of late have been much better. There is a middle ground you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He's becoming a very limited player for us if he isn't scoring. We need to upgrade to a better all-rounder in the summer. Mind the service to him has been poor all season, that and playing him wide at times and the constant f***ing long ball. Would make far more sense to just stop pretending Jonas is a adequate player for the wide role. 1 decent cross into the box all game for him, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He's becoming a very limited player for us if he isn't scoring. We need to upgrade to a better all-rounder in the summer. Mind the service to him has been poor all season, that and playing him wide at times and the constant f***ing long ball. Would make far more sense to just stop pretending Jonas is a adequate player for the wide role. 1 decent cross into the box all game for him, man. Agreed, I like Jonas but work-rate alone is not enough. He is absolutely awful on the ball these days and has been all season long. Keep him as a squad player but remove him from the first-team. He had time and space at one point in the game to put a cross in and he simply passed it into Dawson. How can anyone be so deficient in crossing is beyond me. He isn't even strong these days either, he can barely hold off a player or run with the ball well. He looks shot actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Would still have Demba Ba over him like. IMO he needs to work on coming deep and/or wide to offer more for the team. Like I said, flash Darren Bent. Hope he proves me wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He is not similar to Darren Bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thought he played well today. Held the ball up well, just as last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thought he played well today. Held the ball up well, just as last week. He did? I must have watched a different game, as he kept losing it on mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I thought he actually had quite a good game considering. We just need to get players much closer to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yeah very isolated at times today, tough in a game like that where we don't create to many chances for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He is not similar to Darren Bent. How is he not? His game is all about getting in behind the defence, movement off the ball and pure finishing with head or feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yeah very isolated at times today, tough in a game like that where we don't create to many chances for him. Mous was close to him all the time. The balls where knocked too long but had he held it up a bit Mous was there for him no doubt. He only looked isolated because the ball never sticked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Would still have Demba Ba over him like. IMO he needs to work on coming deep and/or wide to offer more for the team. Like I said, flash Darren Bent. Hope he proves me wrong. I remember Cisse coming deep quite a few times actually, and was thinking he should have been sitting further forward... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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