Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Like Bent could have sent Gouffran clear last week with that wonderful piece of link up play. How embarrassing to see our own supporters making that comparison. If you can't see certain similarities because one is capable of something the other (arguably) isn't, then God help you. Nobody is arguing they're one and the same person FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 People are acting like Darren Bent is a league one plodder. He's scored over a goal in two and a half for most of his Premiership career.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Worked hard and his hold up play was a lot better today which is the biggest weakness IMO. The isloation he has seen in the past could be helped by doing what he did today and chest, look for throw ins and corners as well as laying it off when under control to bring others in to the game. If he's only held his run for that split second when he went to early and the score could be so much different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That header was awful today, can't believe anyone is defending it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniatmoko Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 he is no where near ba ability in term of movement & general link up play. basically if he keep missing his chance he is rubbish. that header should go in or hit target at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That header was awful today, can't believe anyone is defending it That was a difficult header to pull off, it wasn't easy at all if he did score it we would all being raving how fantastic a header it was. Fine margins..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TCD23 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Had an average match today. Dembele blocking off Sissoko lessened the feed to Cisse. He'll bounce back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 What do people want him to do? He is a limited player but such a letal man to have in the box. He should only be in box, help defending and used simply as a targetman. With arfa back he will be better...Jonas does not help him. I Think cisse is really good...a limited player - yes. But with other attacking options and better/more delivery he will be very good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He is better than Bent but they are very similar types of striker, both have limited games, only Cisse has less of a limited game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 What do people want him to do? He is a limited player but such a letal man to have in the box. He should only be in box, help defending and used simply as a targetman. With arfa back he will be better...Jonas does not help him. I Think cisse is really good...a limited player - yes. But with other attacking options and better/more delivery he will be very good! Being lethal in the box would be a start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 This wouldn't even be up for debate if our manager knew how to orchestrate an attacking game plan that gives Cisse the service that he needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 This wouldn't even be up for debate if our manager knew how to orchestrate an attacking game plan that gives Cisse the service that he needs. Conversely, the attacking game plan wouldn't even be up for debate if Cisse took the chances that fall to him week in week out, like he did last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 What do people want him to do? He is a limited player but such a letal man to have in the box. He should only be in box, help defending and used simply as a targetman. With arfa back he will be better...Jonas does not help him. I Think cisse is really good...a limited player - yes. But with other attacking options and better/more delivery he will be very good! Being lethal in the box would be a start Would be good if wasn't instructed to be on the half way line instead of in the box..... he's hardly ever in the box because of Pardew tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Like Bent could have sent Gouffran clear last week with that wonderful piece of link up play. How embarrassing to see our own supporters making that comparison. Agreed. Embarrassing. Both are very good players. I think Cisse is slightly better, but they have very similar limitations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 What do people want him to do? He is a limited player but such a letal man to have in the box. He should only be in box, help defending and used simply as a targetman. With arfa back he will be better...Jonas does not help him. I Think cisse is really good...a limited player - yes. But with other attacking options and better/more delivery he will be very good! Being lethal in the box would be a start Would be good if wasn't instructed to be on the half way line instead of in the box..... he's hardly ever in the box because of Pardew tbh. Rubbish. Which striker ever stays in the box all game long? Cisse would just be offside even more than he is already.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He had 1 chance today and was (from what I saw) unfairly judged offside when he would have been in 1 on 1 in another. Honestly we just need to forget the first half of the season and start judging players from afresh, and Cisse since the new signings have arrived has looked a better player imo, he needs goals obviously but I don't think he's exactly missing sitter after sitter, he had one header today after he pealed away from the defence, but because he missed his target everyone immediately jumps to call him a knacker, regardless of how difficult the chance actually was. It was happening against Villa and Chelsea too. . The run was offside, but it was a good run tbh. That header from the Colo cross though, he had so much space and time, to not even work the 'keeper is criminal for a top striker. I'll have to see the offside decision again but it looked like he was being played on by the centre back's foot. It may have just been the angle though but it was tight either way. As for the header it was a very difficult chance man, come on. To score from a there he has to loop it into the far corner as he could hardly power it in, he tried that and it went wide. The safer option is to head it closer to the keeper who makes a routine save, and everyone calls him a knacker for not aiming towards the far corner of the net Don't get me wrong, Cisse hasn't been a brilliant striker of late by any means, I think his link up play has been good as well has his movement but his finishing (although not laughable) hasn't been as emphatic as we know it can be. A striker doesn't score the quality of goals he has out of pure luck, he just needs his form back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That header was awful today, can't believe anyone is defending it That was a difficult header to pull off, it wasn't easy at all if he did score it we would all being raving how fantastic a header it was. Fine margins..... A ball was put in, he was completely on his own and he headed it yards wide. It was absolutely shocking Not saying he definitely should have scored it but he definitely should have got it on target at least, he was nowhere near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Did you copy paste that from a couple of weeks ago? I keep reading these votes of confidence, and people expected Cisse to pick it up after Ba left, but it hasn't really happened for him so far, has it? I predicted him to score 20-25 earlier in that poll, now I'd be ecstatic if he gets half that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Did you copy paste that from a couple of weeks ago? I keep reading these votes of confidence, and people expected Cisse to pick it up after Ba left, but it hasn't really happened for him so far, has it? I predicted him to score 20-25 earlier in that poll, now I'd be ecstatic if he gets half that. He's scored three times in the last couple of weeks. He's still off the form of last season, but that was ridiculous form to be honest. 20-25 Premier League goals would have probably seen us challenging for the title btw, it happens that rarely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Did you copy paste that from a couple of weeks ago? I keep reading these votes of confidence, and people expected Cisse to pick it up after Ba left, but it hasn't really happened for him so far, has it? I predicted him to score 20-25 earlier in that poll, now I'd be ecstatic if he gets half that. He's scored three times in the last couple of weeks. He's still off the form of last season, but that was ridiculous form to be honest. 20-25 Premier League goals would have probably seen us challenging for the title btw, it happens that rarely. He's scored three in the last couple of weeks, which isn't bad in all fairness, but he could have had many more if he had taken his chances at a rate you'd expect a top striker to get. I think Rich posted some chance conversion stats a couple of weeks back (don't know where he got them from), and Cisse was way behind other top strikers in the league this season. With all the chances spurned recently I don't think that stat will have got much better. Maybe I'm being a little harsh on wor Papiss, but my prediction was based on my conviction that he is a top striker, as his record for us last season and in Germany the seasons before seems to suggest. As I hold him in high esteem, I also judge him as such, and in my mind he is falling way behind the level I expect him to operate at. As for 20-25 Premiership goals being that unrealistic, last season we were one good result from CL qualification, and we had two forwards seemingly capable of 20-25 goals for the season. The main strikers in the current top 6 are well on their way to scoring around 20. Also, many people on here want us to play a system with one forward. We can't get away from the fact that this sole striker will need to get around 20 goals a season for the team to have a good season. I really don't think it's that preposterous a suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not worried about Cisse at all. He'll score plenty of goals in this side. Did you copy paste that from a couple of weeks ago? I keep reading these votes of confidence, and people expected Cisse to pick it up after Ba left, but it hasn't really happened for him so far, has it? I predicted him to score 20-25 earlier in that poll, now I'd be ecstatic if he gets half that. He's scored three times in the last couple of weeks. He's still off the form of last season, but that was ridiculous form to be honest. 20-25 Premier League goals would have probably seen us challenging for the title btw, it happens that rarely. Exactly. Hope he gets a start on Thursday though. He could do with one or two for a bit of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That header was awful today, can't believe anyone is defending it That was a difficult header to pull off, it wasn't easy at all if he did score it we would all being raving how fantastic a header it was. Fine margins..... A ball was put in, he was completely on his own and he headed it yards wide. It was absolutely shocking Not saying he definitely should have scored it but he definitely should have got it on target at least, he was nowhere near. It was nowhere near as easy as you are making it out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 That header was awful today, can't believe anyone is defending it That was a difficult header to pull off, it wasn't easy at all if he did score it we would all being raving how fantastic a header it was. Fine margins..... A ball was put in, he was completely on his own and he headed it yards wide. It was absolutely shocking Not saying he definitely should have scored it but he definitely should have got it on target at least, he was nowhere near. It was nowhere near as easy as you are making it out to be. thought it was a good try to put it in the far post- really difficult to pull off, and a decent attempt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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