Papiss Cissé

[Guest Roger Kint]

It seems the buy cheap sell high philosophy has now been embraced 

 

Fucking hell they havent even bid yet man. Some people on here actively look to find bad news

[Stuy_O]

Look how long it took us to replace Carroll and look how long its still taking us to replace Ba. If we sold Cisse is could be utterly disastrous.

 

Never trust our board.

[Unbelievable]

Realistically, if a club is offering you far more than a player is worth, then you should take it.

Firstly Cisse is worth more than £20Mil -  the guy is a 'proven' goal scorer in the Premiership and the goals he scores are utter class. When you think up until January Pardew had him playing out wide, to finish the year with 13 goals for the service he got was nothing sort of brilliant.  If it wasn't for his goals we would be down.  Which takes me to my next point - EVEN if you thought £20Mil was good for him, you need to take into account the loss to the club should the lack of his goals next year send us down.  We cannot go into next season without 'at least' one striker who has proved he can score goals in this league.

 

Cisse is clearly seriously under rated.  At the end of last season before last when he was scoring goals from everywhere would you have said then £20Mil was a fair price?  I am not convinced you would.  We have one bad season and suddenly people become bad players?  I would even throw Tiote in that bracket.  We need to keep this squad together - it was this group of players who got us a whisker away from Champions League football.  I am not saying they will again but it certainly shows the potential of the team.  We need to be adding to it not selling any of our best players, whatever the price.  Cause you never know if the replacement will be half as good.  Just look at Ba - so far Gouffran is the only striker to come in.  And lets be honest he is average at best.

 

[Cronky]

 

 

It seems the buy cheap sell high philosophy has now been embraced 

 

Buy cheap sell high doesn't sound too bad an idea to me.

[Cajun]

Realistically, if a club is offering you far more than a player is worth, then you should take it.

Firstly Cisse is worth more than £20Mil -  the guy is a 'proven' goal scorer in the Premiership and the goals he scores are utter class. When you think up until January Pardew had him playing out wide, to finish the year with 13 goals for the service he got was nothing sort of brilliant.  If it wasn't for his goals we would be down.  Which takes me to my next point - EVEN if you thought £20Mil was good for him, you need to take into account the loss to the club should the lack of his goals next year send us down.  We cannot go into next season without 'at least' one striker who has proved he can score goals in this league.

 

Cisse is clearly seriously under rated.  At the end of last season before last when he was scoring goals from everywhere would you have said then £20Mil was a fair price?  I am not convinced you would.  We have one bad season and suddenly people become bad players?  I would even throw Tiote in that bracket.  We need to keep this squad together - it was this group of players who got us a whisker away from Champions League football.  I am not saying they will again but it certainly shows the potential of the team.  We need to be adding to it not selling any of our best players, whatever the price.  Cause you never know if the replacement will be half as good.  Just look at Ba - so far Gouffran is the only striker to come in.  And lets be honest he is average at best.

 

He played 20 0f the 16 games he started at right back man ffs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Interpolic]

Cisse only played a few games out wide before Christmas like, even a seasoned Pardew hater like me would admit that.  Not very suited to a 442, mind.

[Dokko]

Cisse only played a few games out wide before Christmas like, even a seasoned Pardew hater like me would admit that.  Not very suited to a 442, mind.

 

He's not suited to much imo. He's a square-wondergoal'd peg that we're trying to fit in the proverbial round hole.

[The College Dropout]

Cisse only played a few games out wide before Christmas like, even a seasoned Pardew hater like me would admit that.  Not very suited to a 442, mind.

 

He's not suited to much imo. He's a square-wondergoal'd peg that we're trying to fit in the proverbial round hole.

 

Agreed.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Cisse's going nowhere. We'll be very thankful of that come Christmas when he's the only one scoring our goals again.

[Dave]

Unless I've read it wrong, more people said they'd see Cisse leave before Tiote in the Chronicle survey.

[Dokko]

Cisse's going nowhere. We'll be very thankful of that come Christmas when he's the only one scoring our goals again.

 

If we are relying on just him to get us goals we might as well swap places with wigan, get relegation over and done with.

 

 

[Rich]

Unless I've read it wrong, more people said they'd see Cisse leave before Tiote in the Chronicle survey.

 

Aye, found that interesting in amidst all the shite. Tend to agree with the result when compared to the other players present in the pie chart, though.

[Stuy_O]

Unless I've read it wrong, more people said they'd see Cisse leave before Tiote in the Chronicle survey.

 

Astonishing that.

[Wullie]

I for one desperately hope we don't sell Cisse. Some people don't seem to grasp how detrimental a high turnover of players is and think we can just swap players in and out easily as long as they're better than what you've got. Quite apart from the fact that finding a better striker than Cisse would be incredibly difficult, it simply doesn't work like that. He's one of the players we simply cannot lose.

[Interpolic]

Cisse only played a few games out wide before Christmas like, even a seasoned Pardew hater like me would admit that.  Not very suited to a 442, mind.

 

He's not suited to much imo. He's a square-wondergoal'd peg that we're trying to fit in the proverbial round hole.

 

Agreed.

 

Bit weird how he's scored so many goals wherever he's played then.

[Kanj]

I for one desperately hope we don't sell Cisse. Some people don't seem to grasp how detrimental a high turnover of players is and think we can just swap players in and out easily as long as they're better than what you've got. Quite apart from the fact that finding a better striker than Cisse would be incredibly difficult, it simply doesn't work like that. He's one of the players we simply cannot lose.

 

Wullie's on point here.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Cisse's going nowhere. We'll be very thankful of that come Christmas when he's the only one scoring our goals again.

 

If we are relying on just him to get us goals we might as well swap places with wigan, get relegation over and done with.

 

 

 

That's my point, we shouldn't. However he's a goalscorer - There's nothing wrong with having a player in the team only geared towards scoring goals, as long as everyone else does their job properly. It's no secret we need someone to compliment him up top, score goals as well, play Cisse in, pull defenders away for advancing midfielders (remember them). Get rid of Cisse and we need 2 top quality additions that perform from the very start of the season. That wouldn't happen.

[Dave]

I for one desperately hope we don't sell Cisse. Some people don't seem to grasp how detrimental a high turnover of players is and think we can just swap players in and out easily as long as they're better than what you've got. Quite apart from the fact that finding a better striker than Cisse would be incredibly difficult, it simply doesn't work like that. He's one of the players we simply cannot lose.

 

Especially considering one of the reasons given for our poor season was that the new players came in at the wrong time and/or haven't settled yet.

 

The coaching staff need to work on Cisse, he made many of the same mistakes all season. The quality is there, it needs managing.

[TRon]

If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option.

 

I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year.

 

If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable.

[Rich]

If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option.

 

I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year.

 

If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable.

 

Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind.

[TRon]

If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option.

 

I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year.

 

If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable.

 

Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind.

 

It will be the biggest "I told you so" fest in the history of football forums. Be warned in advance because I know there is nothing more annoying.

[Unbelievable]

If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option.

 

I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year.

 

If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable.

 

[aussiemag]

If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option.

 

I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year.

 

If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable.

 

Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind.

 

Not worth it , who can live 4 weeks without N-O

[TRon]

If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option.

 

I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year.

 

If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable.

 

Think murder gets a 4 week ban, mind.

 

Not worth it , who can live 4 weeks without N-O

 

Good point. two weeks is bad enough honestly.

[Dokko]

If we sold Cisse for £20m-£25m then I think the majority of that money will be used to bring Carroll in and we will get 1-2 cheap options up front. If we don't sell him I can see us bringing Carroll in in anyway and at least 1 young cheap option.

 

I'd rather not sell Cisse just so Ashley doesn't have to re-invest much money. Cisse's main problems this season has been not enough support/service, and playing out of position. Getting him a partner would solve that and we will start to see the Cisse we saw last year.

 

If we sell Cisse in order to bring back Carroll I will be absolutely murdering people on this forum if Carroll flops. College Dropuout and Cronky will be high up on the list closely followed by TT and Unbelievable.

 

 

In all honesty I Couldn't see Carroll struggling to get around 8 league goals for us, even with his injuries. I'd imagine he'd do a lot more for his team as well, not just assists (hanz)