KaKa Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm really pulling for Gouffran to get a run in that striker role btw. He was a 1 in 2 striker in France in that position. Holds the ball up better than Cisse, as he's tougher and does a great job of shielding it. And he'll also work the channels more, and likely won't stray offside as much. It's an opportunity for Gouffran this. Hope he grabs it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Again has he actually been quoted as saying this is a muslim thing? I hear it's purely fashion related. I just mean for all intents and purposes he seems like a guy with a good heart. Maybe he just doesn't like Wonga's profiteering of the poor and desperate. Fed up with the whole he does X or Y etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 What a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If we we're sponsored by Ladbrokes would he have a problem I wonder? Doesn't mind picking up his 60K/week salary does he. The staggering hypocrisy of both the player and his sympathisers beggars belief. So Wonga are what they are ? Most banks are, FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He gambles which is also not allowed by his religion. Wonder why he does that, maybe because he enjoys it. If this turns out to be true, he's a hypocrite and get the GTFO with his cherry picking bullshit. Personally i don't think it's as bad as it's being made out to be. I think it's more to do with him fasting for Ramadan ding dong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmag Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Again has he actually been quoted as saying this is a muslim thing? I hear it's purely fashion related. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think it's more to do with him fasting for Ramadan ding dong. If it was I find it hard to believe even a PR dept. as bad as the one at NUFC wouldn't have released a statement (to Sports Direct News) saying so. Maybe we're waiting for JFK to phone TalkSport though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 http://www.empireclaims.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Wongas-cute-marketing-masks-fraud-and-theft.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think it's more to do with him fasting for Ramadan ding dong. If it was I find it hard to believe even a PR dept. as bad as the one at NUFC wouldn't have released a statement (to Sports Direct News) saying so. Maybe we're waiting for JFK to phone TalkSport though. Fair point, he's a knob then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Don't have a problem with him kicking up a stink about this. Shows character to be this firmly behind his beliefs, better to stand up against a morally repugnant brand than just get his head down and get on with it. Quite a big difference between giving them publicity by refusing it and having a large number of photos of him in the kit and a massive grin on his face. Bullshit, he wore a Virgin Money shirt last season, they lend money for profit, he's just being a twat looking for more money or a way out. Fuck me more made up guess work than Ryder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Ramadan must be testing Ben Arfa's faith to the Max. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If its because of the sponsor, how is it any different than last year? Virgin Money also has interest on their loans, and isn't that the case with muslims ? Hope he stays, won't get anyone better in a million years. Virgin Money offer loans for Muslims, sharia banking if you will. That particular brand of high street banking is also such an integral part of society, something that has been around so long there has probably been a degree of modernisation and acceptance from Muslims too. It would be extremely hard for anyone to go about their day to day lives without banks. Payday lenders are a completely different beast. They're relatively new entities that cater to those in dire need and make vast sums of cash off the back of individuals who don't have a lot to begin with. You don't need to be a religious person to feel extremely uneasy that there's an entire industry sprung up around lending money to people who are struggling to get by at frankly eye watering rates of interest. It's sick. And these cunts are associated with our club. And in a region where unemployment is through the roof and more and more people have to rely on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm really pulling for Gouffran to get a run in that striker role btw. He was a 1 in 2 striker in France in that position. Holds the ball up better than Cisse, as he's tougher and does a great job of shielding it. And he'll also work the channels more, and likely won't stray offside as much. It's an opportunity for Gouffran this. Hope he grabs it. I'd go as far as to Ba > Cisse > Gouffran is a massive decline. Bit like how Bruce managed to turn Bent, Gyan, Welbeck and Campbell into Bendtner, Wickham and Ji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm all for players having the freedom to express their personal beliefs, but not selectively. If he had a moral objection to interest-bearing loans, then he shouldn't have worn a Virgin Money shirt. A principle is a principle, or should be. It's particularly unfortunate because there's such a strong (and understandable) anti-Wonga sentiment that helps push this thing forward in the national media. Either way, I really do wish we had a less ridiculous sponsor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If its because of the sponsor, how is it any different than last year? Virgin Money also has interest on their loans, and isn't that the case with muslims ? Hope he stays, won't get anyone better in a million years. Virgin Money offer loans for Muslims, sharia banking if you will. That particular brand of high street banking is also such an integral part of society, something that has been around so long there has probably been a degree of modernisation and acceptance from Muslims too. It would be extremely hard for anyone to go about their day to day lives without banks. Payday lenders are a completely different beast. They're relatively new entities that cater to those in dire need and make vast sums of cash off the back of individuals who don't have a lot to begin with. You don't need to be a religious person to feel extremely uneasy that there's an entire industry sprung up around lending money to people who are struggling to get by at frankly eye watering rates of interest. It's sick. And these c***s are associated with our club. And in a region where unemployment is through the roof and more and more people have to rely on them. So if I became a Muslim could I stroll into Virgin and ask for an interest free loan then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Cisse point about Wonga is fair and valid, but it's laughable when he breaks several other of his religions rules because he enjoys them. The whole things a joke and for once i'm not blaming the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Cisse point about Wonga is fair and valid, but it's laughable when he breaks several other of his religions rules because he enjoys them. The whole things a joke and for once i'm not blaming the club. Seems as if he wants away like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Cisse point about Wonga is fair and valid, but it's laughable when he breaks several other of his religions rules because he enjoys them. The whole things a joke and for once i'm not blaming the club. Which leads me to think he is objecting on a personal level not a religious one. He's clearly not a strict Muslim. I doubt it's his faith that is the stumbling block here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 No more pissing around over this sell him as there is no middle ground, he won't wear the shirt we are not going to change sponsor. So him leaving is the only outcome, wasting time in an already non moving transfer window will only hurt us more. Love him but he has to go so we can move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm really pulling for Gouffran to get a run in that striker role btw. He was a 1 in 2 striker in France in that position. Holds the ball up better than Cisse, as he's tougher and does a great job of shielding it. And he'll also work the channels more, and likely won't stray offside as much. It's an opportunity for Gouffran this. Hope he grabs it. I'd go as far as to Ba > Cisse > Gouffran is a massive decline. Bit like how Bruce managed to turn Bent, Gyan, Welbeck and Campbell into Bendtner, Wickham and Ji Gouffran's actually a good striker though, he'd scored 22 goals in the season and a half before joining us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Cisse point about Wonga is fair and valid, but it's laughable when he breaks several other of his religions rules because he enjoys them. The whole things a joke and for once i'm not blaming the club. The problem is him openly endorsing the pay day loan company, with ridiculous a apr. He doesn't promote gambling or anything else to others by having it emblazoned across his chest each week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 How many of the rest late back from international duty are going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 How many of the rest late back from international duty are going? Everyone it seems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 It'll probably mean nothing. Like when Benteke didn't go to Germany with us last week. Oh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Hopefully this is Gouff's chance to claim the only striker spot in the side. He's a much better footballer imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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