Guest Chubby Jason Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Stupid name, don't want him here. Adrian is a lovely name. Adrien: Substandard 1st name. Mariappa: the name of a player destined to fail at the highest level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Stupid name, don't want him here. Adrian is a lovely name. Adrien: Substandard 1st name. Mariappa: the name of a player destined to fail at the highest level. Edson Arantes Mariappa do Nascimento disagrees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Wiki says that he played at right-back for Watford the last time they were in the prem. I know young CBs often have to play at fullback at the start of their careers, but he could also provide cover/competition for Simpson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Ok, so this is where we're at, I need: - Ronaldo to say that no defender, under 6', has succeeded in the Premier League. - Someone to point out that Cannavaro was under 6'. Then I've got a full house, in 'Defender under 6' Talk Bingo'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Ok, so this is where we're at, I need: - Ronaldo to say that no defender, under 6', has succeeded in the Premier League. - Someone to point out that Cannavaro was under 6'. Then I've got a full house, in 'Defender under 6' Talk Bingo'. Already happened, cross her off. EDIT: His name is Fijian, not Finnish. people put too much emphasis on size when it comes to centre backs. aslong they around 5"10 and has every thing else then its no problem canavaro at his peak was the best defender in the world, won eveything including the world cup and he was only a 5"8 midget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Geedup, son. We're almost home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Stupid name, don't want him here. Adrian is a lovely name. Adrien: Substandard 1st name. Mariappa: the name of a player destined to fail at the highest level. Edson Arantes Mariappa do Nascimento disagrees Obviously not. He had the presence of mind to go by a different name. He'd have been a 3rd division player had he not changed his name, no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Stupid name, don't want him here. Adrian is a lovely name. Adrien: Substandard 1st name. Mariappa: the name of a player destined to fail at the highest level. Edson Arantes Mariappa do Nascimento disagrees Obviously not. He had the presence of mind to go by a different name. He'd have been a 3rd division player had he not changed his name, no doubt. Damn. Good work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Geedup, son. We're almost home. Just need Ronaldo to come in with a late surging comment now........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Henning Berg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Anyway fwiw. 1. Fabio Cannavaro The only defender to ever win the FIFA World Player of the Year award was the 5'9" Fabio Cannavaro. The World Cup winning Italy captain firmly established himself as one of the games great defenders and has played at Juventus, Inter Milan and Real Madrid during the course of his career, as well as making the FIFPro World Eleven for two years running. A composed and authoritative presence at the back, Cannavaro, despite his height, is also a strong header of the ball and a dominating player in his own penalty area. 2. Franco Baresi Franco Baresi, widely considered as one of the greatest defenders to ever play the game, stood at a less than intimidating 5'9". This didn't stop him captaining one of the greatest sides ever to three European Cup victories, five Italian Championships, four Italian Super Cups and three European Super Cups. AC Milan even took the rare option of retiring their No. 6 shirt in Baresi's honour after his retirement. 3. Carles Puyol The home-grown Catalan captain has enjoyed the best years of his career recently, winning La Liga, the Copa del Ray, the Champions League and the European Championship all within the last twelve months. A giant in reputation, but not in height, the Barca captain stands at 5'10" 4. Roberto Ayala The Argentine centre back and winner of two Spanish titles and a UEFA Cup with Valencia is also became Argentina's longest serving captain before his international retirement in 2007. At his peak one of the finest defenders in the world, combining power and elegance in equal measure throughout an eighteen year professional career which included three World Cup competitions. Ayala was 5'9" tall but his positioning, anticipation and composure more than made up for what he lacked in height. 5. Jamie Carragher The Liverpool ace has been a crucial part of Merseyside team spine for the past few years, and Benitez' decision to transform him from a right back to a central defender has paid off in spades for the Reds. Despite Carragher only measuring up at 5'10", the Liverpool-born defender has become one of the Premiership's top defenders, however with Rio Ferdinand and John Terry ahead in the pecking order for the national team, Carragher retired from international football with just 34 caps in 2007. 6. Juan The 5'11" Brazilian cente back currently plays for Italian club AS Roma after impressing during a five-year spell at German side Bayer Leverkusen. His first season at Roma saw the team win the Coppa Italia and take the race for the Serie A down to the last game of the season. Juan also captained the Brazilian national side to two Copa America titles and is a standout performer for his country. 7. Micah Richards Manchester City and England's one-to-watch for the next few years got his first national team call up at the age of eighteen. Deputising for the injured Gary Neville, Richards' impressed against the Netherland's and has since been linked with Chelsea and Arsenal. Quick, young and versatile, if not the tallest, the 5'11" defender can play at centre back and right back and English hopes are high for this talented young stopper to fulfil his massive potential. 8. Phil Jagielka One of the Premiership's best defenders this season came in the unlikely form of Everton's Phil Jagielka. One inch shy of six foot, Jagielka makes up for this with excellent positioning and intuitive reading of the game. The ex Sheffield United player earned an England call up in 2008 and has been a major part in Everton's impressive defence which kept 19 cleans sheets in the Premiership in 08/09. 9. Ivan Cordoba At 5'8" the versatile Inter Milan defender is the shortest player to make the list. The Columbian has an abundance of pace and an outstanding talent for man-marking, yet is also a good header of the ball and a danger at set pieces. During his ten seasons at Inter Milan Cordoba won Serie A four times,the Italian Super Cup three times and the Coppa Italia two times, as well as captaining Columbia to the Copa America in 2001. 10. Thomas Vermaelen Time will tell whether the 5'11" Ajax centre back can prove Tony Adams wrong. The former Arsenal captain said that the Belgian international isn't ready for the Premiership, and that the punters at Arsenal wouldn't want another "small one." Although with the defender expected to undergo a medical at Arsenal today, it appears that Arsene Wenger is willing to overlook the height issue - and with some of the names on this list, who can blame him? http://blog.sport.co.uk/Football/288/Top_Ten_Centre-backs_under_6_foot.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I think the list should have stopped after number 4, just got embarassing from then onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Just about to say Carragher, and as for Baresi, brilliant player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I think the list should have stopped after number 4, just got embarassing from then onwards. aye, Thomas Vermaelen and Ivan Cordoba are total shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Has this thread really just become Mariappa can be good because Cannavaro was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Well, looks like Douglas was right about something! Thinking about it, even though I know f*** all about Mariappa, I guess he would be a decent signing really. Firstly, he's a CB and it is a position we really need reinforcements in; secondly, the Watford fans seem to rate him very highly and finally I trust our scouts to have watched him extensively and have thus made an informed judgement on the lad's ability. If the price is reasonable (£2 million max), then I'm all for this transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Has this thread really just become Mariappa can be good because Cannavaro was I think it's become Mariappa can be good even with his height disadvantage because we have found 4 defenders in the history of football that were short but class acts. Or something along those lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Carvalho, Gallas, Vermaelen have all been sub 6 foot successes. there's no arbitrary cut-off point whereby someone can't play at centre-half, and height does not directly equate to aerial prowess either. Williamson's taller than Taylor but the latter is far, far better in the air - has a better leap, has far more upper body strength and is more forceful and accurate when he connects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 More along the lines of "every player on that list bar Jamie Caggs would walk into our team and are under 6ft." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 C'mon Ronaldo, son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Gary Neville filled in for ManU at centreback on numerous occassions. Always looked class there. And clearly it was because he was a midget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 C'mon Ronaldo, son. Someone else is going to nick this game, i can feel it slipping away...so close yet so far away... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Have never seen him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Have seen him a couple of times, plays alongside Taylor who's a beast so his height didn't come into question too much. Saw him play against Ishmael Miller who's a big lad and Mariappa stood up well to him and didn't get bossed off the ball. Does have pace which is obviously something our centre-backs sorely lack. From the albeit fairly small amounts I've seen he looks like a decent squad option to have if we can get him cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Was looking on some Watford forums yesterday and found some posts from their time in the Prem- liked him, seemed as though even back then he was a ball playing defender (played right back) and was positive on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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