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I actually spoke to one of their better lot today and had a canny craic with him. The jist of it this: He was in his late 40s and said he enjoyed the game from the comforts of the bar. He doesnt go to games now and hasnt done so since the 15 point season. He loves the rivalry during the match but is becoming pretty p*ssed off with thuggish ways of the derby and laughed at how childish and stupid the whole FTM thing is, 2-1, and for us the 5-1 stuff. He says it used to be all about the football but now the rivalry is more sinister and mostly not about the footy now. He said his club has lost a lot of older fans and is now infested with young charvers who abuse everyone and generally cast dark clouds over the club. They have no respect for anything and put all their energy into hating us lot. As a result he no longer likes going to the games.

 

I actually agree with him on the whole FTM, 2-1, or 5-1 stuff in our case. To see grown men boo someone in the street for wearing a mackem top or a toon top is stupid but thats what the rivalry has become these days, bitter, heated and very sinister. More so from their end and I'm not saying that because I'm biased.

 

I think a bit like Pardew's comment about us sinking to their level after Cattermole had been instructed to try and break a leg in the first minute, maybe as fans we sink to their level of abuse on occasions too. However I've always seen the respective rivalry as being quite different, theirs is a bitter hatred which seems fuelled by a feeling of inferiority and a huge chip on the shoulder about all things Newcastle, ours is a kind of p*ss taking thing about all things Sunderland which comes from a feeling of birthright and footballing superiority.

It's not quite as pronounced as the Boro thing where they hate us but we're hardly bothered about them, but it does seem nowadays that the macums have a bitter hatred while we just, well we just laugh at them really.

 

Back in the bad old days when there was much more of a raw edge about it and police escorts and even segregation were not used, Sunderland were nothing really and we did and went as we pleased down there. They have become a lot more hostile since the internet and all ticket segregation etc arrived.

Boro were always a different kettle of fish and you had to be a lot more careful down there.

i'll back up that boro bit.

 

Aye Ayresome was a nightmare place to go with all of those narrow streets around it.

 

Seen a few beatings around there, have been sat on Linthorpe Rd after the match behind a transit van before when some Boro lads hit the windscreen with a baseball bat and tried to wrench the drivers door off until about 6 of our lot jumped out the back and chased them off.

 

The Riverside wasn't good in it's early days as well. It's a lot better now though.

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Baffled why they think they've won more trophies than us. Removing the shit from each club, we've won 4 league titles and 6 FA cups and they've won 6 league titles and 2 FA cups.

 

Mackem maths :yao:

 

 

Mackems maths -15,000= more crowds :lol:

 

 

1 point > 4 points

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I'm so glad I'm not a mackem.

 

Just like the song - it could've been worse, could've been born a mackem.

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I'm so glad I'm not a mackem.

 

Just like the song - it could've been worse, could've been born a mackem.

 

It's even getting tedious having such backward tramps as our closest (geographic) rivals.

Why can't we have a club a bit more like ourselves as a main rival instead of those humourless bitter twats.

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If ever the difference between the two sets of fans needed to be clearly illustrated, Sunday did just that.

If we had got a draw when the opposition missed a penalty, had been totally dominated in every statistical way(shots,corners,possession etc) had our captain and best player sent off for plain stupid acts and a manager who's game plan was nothing more than to kick the opposition off the park, we'd be incensed and rightly so.

In macumdom that was a moral victory which will lead to years of domination. Are they really that stupid ?

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you have to remember the way the mackem mind works, i'll give an example.

 

Headline "north east football fans smash up train"

 

reaction "dirty scummy geordie bastards. no justification for it, just typical of the black and white bastards, ftm, we would never do anything like that as we are classy"

 

 

extra info  "err it was sunderland fans"

 

re-evaluation  from mackems " totally justified, the police were to blame for putting far too many on the train and they only kicked the windows out to get some air in and they pulled the lights because it was a beautifully clear night and we wanted to see the stars"

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Found this funny :lol:

 

http://fansonline.net/newcastleunited/article.php?id=1274

 

Anzhi Makhachkala are a Russian club who are being called the new Manchester City by many who study the game. Despite the undesirable area in which the club is situated, some of the world’s top players are joining. Such players include Eto’o, Roberto Carlos and ex Blackburn captain Chris Samba. The club is owned by billionaire Suleiman Kerimov, a Russian businessman from the area of Dagestan where Anzhi play. He has made his billions from gold and potash. For those who don’t know, Potash is a mined or manufactured salt used most commonly as a plant fertiliser, fascinating stuff. Dagestan is in the north Caucasus, an area widely known as one of the roughest and most dangerous in Russia. It is best described by a series of extracts from BBC’s Steve Rosenberg when writing about Makhachkala in November:

 

“On match day in Makhachkala, armed police patrol outside the football stadium. This is one of the most dangerous parts of Russia.

 

In Dagestan, in the volatile North Caucasus, there are attacks by criminal gangs or Islamist insurgents nearly every day.

 

Last September two car bombs exploded close to Anzhi's stadium. One policeman was killed and more than 60 people wounded.

 

The street by the stadium was covered in shattered glass and twisted metal. Shop fronts were ripped to shreds.

 

For security reasons, the Anzhi players do not spend too much time in Dagestan. They actually live and train a thousand miles away outside Moscow.

 

The team only flies into Dagestan for its home games - then flies out again.”

 

By this point I am sure you are starting to see the similarities between Anzhi Makhachkala and the team that will forever be in our shadow, Sunderland. It amused me on Sunday no end when I heard Sunderland fans both in St James’ Park and on twitter branding Newcastle a “shit hole” and it’s people “scum”. In reality, it was incredibly ironic. The majority of those fans in the upper tier of the Sir John Hall stand will do their shopping in Newcastle, come for a night out in Newcastle and perhaps most outrageously, send their children to be educated in Newcastle.

 

The similarities continue. The Sunderland players, just like those at Anzhi, refuse to live in the city or area in which they actually apply their trade.  Most the Sunderland players live in Darras Hall, Jesmond or Gosforth and spend most their time in the city of Newcastle, a city supposedly home to their most bitter rivals.

 

They are seen on a regular basis in our restaurants, shops and night clubs and seem to prefer the beautiful surroundings they find in our city as opposed to theirs. During his time at the Stadium of Light, Darren Bent was seen on Northumberland Street almost daily. David Meyler has been seen stumbling around Tup Tup palace on more than one occasion begging for VIP entry, always to no avail. Unfortunately, no one appears to know who he is. We all know about Bendtner and Cattermole’s disorderly behaviour on Stowell Street after a night in Asper’s casino also. Once again, seems a bit odd that they would choose to spend their free time here as opposed to their own city. Perhaps most hilarious is the exchange between Fraizer Campbell and a Newcastle fan on Osborne Road in Jesmond; when Campbell was told he “played for the scum”, he simply replied with, “No, I just get paid by the scum”. A very loyal and defensive answer from the so called England player, not. 

 

In reality however, can you really blame the Sunderland players for wanting to spend as little time in Sunderland as possible? It’s not one of the most inviting places in the country or even the planet. Just like the Anzhi players, Sunderland’s are quite willing to play their home games there and pick up their pay cheque, but are not willing to spend any more time there than they are contractually obliged to. The Sunderland fans have provided me with amusement this week with their insults fired at our first class city, especially when the majority on my timeline travel here every day for school or university. They are hugely hypocritical; it’s one thing to insult our players and football team. But to insult our people and our city is another, they haven’t got a leg to stand on.  They should maybe ask their player’s why they appear to prefer our city so much. After all, this weekend’s tie at St James’ Park would have actually been the Sunderland player’s shortest journey of the year, a bit odd when they were apparently playing away. The draw at the weekend was a scintillating game and worth the price of a season ticket for that 90 minutes alone. 4 points out of 6 against them this year is a decent return and once again Shola has proved his worth. We are and always will be the pride of the North East.

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Perhaps most hilarious is the exchange between Fraizer Campbell and a Newcastle fan on Osborne Road in Jesmond; when Campbell was told he “played for the scum”, he simply replied with, “No, I just get paid by the scum”

 

No way :lol:

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Love how they're all 'what do you think of Tiote', 'are you not embarrassed'; not stopping to think that actually Sessegnon lost his head, embarrassed himself and played his part in costing them a famous victory over us. :lol:

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This.

 

A thousand fucking times, this

 

You go on about us being 'formed' in 1992, but you fuckers daren't look back more than three seasons.

 

9-1

 

Great comeback  :lol:

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http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=679768

 

:lol:

 

 

how many seasons in a row did we finish above the mongs ffs.

 

That Turd ferguson is doing an excellent job, is it anyone on here?  :lol:

 

Gemmill's old pseudonym, I think. Same avatar, come to mention it...

 

"North East's premier mackem slayer and all round good egg, Shola Ameobi."

 

:lol: nice

 

 

"If we're gonna talk about managers making a t*** of themselves on the touchline, we should probably broach the subject of O'Neill's froggy-went-a-courtin' leaps."

 

 

Excellent stuff  :lol:

 

 

 

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One of the daft twats has emailed the FA asking them to punish Tiote.  :2funny: :2funny:

 

http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=680087

 

Lets email them Ba getting a cross taken off his forehead by a Sunderland players fist, or Ben Arfa being shoved over after dribbling past Turner, or Gardner pulling one of our players down during a counter attack when he was already on a yellow.

 

Fucking loser.

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