jdckelly Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 they're in a lot of trouble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 15:46, Wilson said: Be amazing if we can drop them well and truly in the shit. Only way really is if they lose almost every game, one win will be enough, couple of draws might even do it, even they aren't going to be that bad by the end, at some point motivation kicks in, even if its just about a 40% payout for their star players. Even though he's a dirty cunt and limited footballer losing Clattermong for the rest of the season is a blow. Truely believe we didnt beat them simply down to his early tackle on Tiote as it really unsettled us for the entire first half, he's a twat, but he's their twat and is needed, especially right now. Felt hers goals have been vital, lose Sess for any length and its may happen. mingelot is a good keeper, but Westwood is canny, it wouldn't be the massive loss Sess is, he's their only player with any ability to run with the ball and do something at the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Just saw some statement saying without Fletcher's goals Sunderland would be 20th. It really pisses me off when people say stuff like that 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be 12 points worse off and be..' Yeah, cause football works like that. You don't consider the fact if he wasn't playing someone else might. Stupid theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:13, Cabaye said: Just saw some statement saying without Fletcher's goals Sunderland would be 20th. It really pisses me off when people say stuff like that 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be 12 points worse off and be..' Yeah, cause football works like that. You don't consider the fact if he wasn't playing someone else might. Stupid theory. Like how Barca would be 3rd or something without Messi's goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:13, Cabaye said: Just saw some statement saying without Fletcher's goals Sunderland would be 20th. It really pisses me off when people say stuff like that 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be 12 points worse off and be..' Yeah, cause football works like that. You don't consider the fact if he wasn't playing someone else might. Stupid theory. Where would we be with Ba's goals from earlier in the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 15:58, Wallace said: Just received an official text from NUFC to say the derby is sold out. Sold out in just under 5 hours apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:13, Cabaye said: Just saw some statement saying without Fletcher's goals Sunderland would be 20th. It really pisses me off when people say stuff like that 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be 12 points worse off and be..' Yeah, cause football works like that. You don't consider the fact if he wasn't playing someone else might. Stupid theory. If you take in to account who steps in, Saha or Wickham, then its not stupid at all. With the Ba case it was different as we had Cisse on the wing and he's a capable striker played in the right position, Barca and Messi (ridiculous counter argument) well they have several amazing players to step in. Fletcher has been really important to them. This injury at the start of the season would no doubt see them in real trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The stat just shows how important he is to them as he is their main goalscorer and they don't have many others capable of finding the back of the net. Without him for the rest of the season, they are going to seriously struggle as the transfer window is closed and the other players available look absolutely toothless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:22, Toon's Taylor said: Quote Just saw some statement saying without Fletcher's goals Sunderland would be 20th. It really pisses me off when people say stuff like that 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be 12 points worse off and be..' Yeah, cause football works like that. You don't consider the fact if he wasn't playing someone else might. Stupid theory. If you take in to account who steps in, Saha or Wickham, then its not stupid at all. With the Ba case it was different as we had Cisse on the wing and he's a capable striker played in the right position, Barca and Messi (ridiculous counter argument) well they have several amazing players to step in. Fletcher has been really important to them. This injury at the start of the season would no doubt see them in real trouble. I'm not saying you can't say 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be in a much worse position' but to say lets take those goals away and calculate the exact points they'd be on is completely ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'd really hate it if they went down. Not having the derby games to look forward to would make next year so much less interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:25, Jack Flash said: I'd really hate it if they went down. Not having the derby games to look forward to would make next year so much less interesting. I hope they go out of business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Bar Reading, they probably have the worst form in the league. I think they'll survive but they've got some very tough games coming up- all it takes is a couple of losses and those around you to win it and the pressure is cranked up a few notches. Most of their games are against some of the top sides or sides in and around them, and then there's the derby. Reading may have the new manager effect and pick up a few wins, that could make things interesting. Cattermole is influential for them, he'll be a miss. Fletcher is pretty much their only source of goals and that's before taking into account they're not prolific scorers anyway. I wouldn't rule out relegation for them. I hope they go down and rot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 If they weren't in serious s*** before (which most mackems might say), they are in deep, deep s*** now. Losing Fletcher is really a killer blow (unless Graham goes on a brilliant run of form...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:25, Cabaye said: Quote Quote Just saw some statement saying without Fletcher's goals Sunderland would be 20th. It really pisses me off when people say stuff like that 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be 12 points worse off and be..' Yeah, cause football works like that. You don't consider the fact if he wasn't playing someone else might. Stupid theory. If you take in to account who steps in, Saha or Wickham, then its not stupid at all. With the Ba case it was different as we had Cisse on the wing and he's a capable striker played in the right position, Barca and Messi (ridiculous counter argument) well they have several amazing players to step in. Fletcher has been really important to them. This injury at the start of the season would no doubt see them in real trouble. I'm not saying you can't say 'If he hadn't scored those goals they'd be in a much worse position' but to say lets take those goals away and calculate the exact points they'd be on is completely ridiculous. I agree, exact no, but like said looking at the replacements its closer than the other counter examples given. Luckily they bought Graham, like for like even if its a downgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:27, Mistle17 said: Bar Reading, they probably have the worst form in the league. I think they'll survive but they've got some very tough games coming up- all it takes is a couple of losses and those around you to win it and the pressure is cranked up a few notches. Most of their games are against some of the top sides or sides in and around them, and then there's the derby. Reading may have the new manager effect and pick up a few wins, that could make things interesting. Cattermole is influential for them, he'll be a miss. Fletcher is pretty much their only source of goals and that's before taking into account they're not prolific scorers anyway. I wouldn't rule out relegation for them. I hope they go down and rot. Think again marra http://i.imgur.com/Ee1zf7Q.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Upon hearing about their injury news, I came in to post that by sheer virtue of their distance from 18th they'd probably be okay for this season. Having re-examined the table and their fixtures, I'm not that sure. All depends on momentum down there, couple of weekends of results seems to shake the shit out of the relegation battle candidates. On the other hand, whilst they have very difficult fixtures, they are fixtures which might suit them too. Ziff has the perfect excuse to put 11 men behind the ball against the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Everton, Spurs. We're only two points better off which is galling. I'm not excited for them exactly, but the home games against Fulham and the Mackems can't come quick enough in terms of securing our status in the league for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Think Sunderland and ourselves have an almost equal chance of going down (i.e. an outside chance). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:29, Fugazi said: Quote Bar Reading, they probably have the worst form in the league. I think they'll survive but they've got some very tough games coming up- all it takes is a couple of losses and those around you to win it and the pressure is cranked up a few notches. Most of their games are against some of the top sides or sides in and around them, and then there's the derby. Reading may have the new manager effect and pick up a few wins, that could make things interesting. Cattermole is influential for them, he'll be a miss. Fletcher is pretty much their only source of goals and that's before taking into account they're not prolific scorers anyway. I wouldn't rule out relegation for them. I hope they go down and rot. Think again marra http://i.imgur.com/Ee1zf7Q.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 16:45, Barnes23 said: Think Sunderland and ourselves have an almost equal chance of going down (i.e. an outside chance). I don't think that they will go, but i'd definitely rather be in our position with points, fixtures, injuries etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=768949 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Quote Will we be arrested if we, yer knar, black up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 On 27/03/2013 at 17:20, Toon's Taylor said: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=768949 Quote African musicians, the Abatimbo Drummers of Burundi, will entertain fans before the game and again at half-time showcasing the unique musical sound of Africa That'll end so badly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XCzxBYlcaag/T3yIGrXcbDI/AAAAAAAAArI/5RmCMsUwxBo/s1600/Funkasaurus_And_His_Mama_And_Bridge_Club_WWE_Wrestlemania.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 They won't go down, but watching them try will be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Using the predictor my final table was: http://i49.tinypic.com/256sqz6.png Excluding the missing Man City West Brom game which makes no real difference to my final table any way. Their fixtures are a real bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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