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Ian, I think I agree with you on virtually everything else, but in this case you are being too fair-minded.

 

I don't know how anyone could take the repeated salutes, his tattoos, his autobiography, that interview, the incidents at Swindon, his repeated failure to categorically refute his affiliation since being hired by the mackems and be as equivocal as you have been.

 

It's not like you're one of those people saying his politics doesn't matter, either. You seem to be saying that it's not as bad as the (admittedly increasingly media-driven) circus claims. I'd argue that it's a consistent pattern of behaviour that might generously be described as very ill-advised, and at worst as sinister (or even evil as some have said).

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  On 03/04/2013 at 10:35, BlueStar said:

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"At least Di Canio is honest about his fascist views "

 

Are you a fascist Paolo?

 

"Uh, I do not have to answer that because there was a statement and it was very clear and this is not the houses of parliament and I don't have to talk about politics"

 

So was that yes or no

 

"IS RIDICULOUS! IS RIDICULOUS FOR ME! I DO NOT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, IS RIDICULOUS"

 

Well, its society that makes people like him hide what they really are.

As far as i am concern, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as long as no laws are broken.

I personally find his views very concerning, and quite sick if you look at the history behind all this.

 

Sunderland did not do themselves any favors by appointing him.

 

 

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  On 03/04/2013 at 10:59, Raconteur said:

Ian, I think I agree with you on virtually everything else, but in this case you are being too fair-minded.

 

I don't know how anyone could take the repeated salutes, his tattoos, his autobiography, that interview, the incidents at Swindon, his repeated failure to categorically refute his affiliation since being hired by the mackems and be as equivocal as you have been.

 

It's not like you're one of those people saying his politics doesn't matter, either. You seem to be saying that it's not as bad as the (admittedly increasingly media-driven) circus claims. I'd argue that it's a consistent pattern of behaviour that might generously be described as very ill-advised, and at worst as sinister (or even evil as some have said).

 

You've got a point, in general I find all right-wing views pretty repellent.

 

My only disagreement is that I don't think he should have to refute his affiliation. If he is a fascist or has fascist sympathies then I don't think that automatically disqualifies him from management.

 

Racists would be different IMO.

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What is really embarrassing/frightening for Sunderland is how many of their fans seem genuinely excited by the prospect of having a self declared fascist in charge of the club  :idiot2:

Probably not a particularly well thought through appointment when they've already had fans charged for racist behaviour this season and Wearside is reputed to be fertile ground for BNP/EDL sympathisers.

Someone in the club's heirarchy needs to take responsibility and make a firm and clear statement.

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  On 03/04/2013 at 11:12, Benwell Lad said:

What is really embarrassing/frightening for Sunderland is how many of their fans seem genuinely excited by the prospect of having a self declared fascist in charge of the club  :idiot2:

Probably not a particularly well thought through appointment when they've already had fans charged for racist behaviour this season and Wearside is reputed to be fertile ground for BNP/EDL sympathisers.

Someone in the club's heirarchy needs to take responsibility and make a firm and clear statement.

 

They already made their statement on Monday. Looks like they're just gonna try and ride out the media sh*tstorm till the end of the season.

 

 

 

 

 

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According to a bloke who works for Sunderland in helping with discrimination/racism in the community etc who was on totalsport last night, Chelsea have already had contact from people who are known to support facism for tickets in the Sunderland end for their game. He said that would be a massive problem as they now have a place to gain more publicity.

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  On 03/04/2013 at 11:13, Ian W said:

Aye, my main worry is about the effect on football fans. Will we see opposition fans taunting Sunderland with fascists salutes, or Sunderland fans using them in support of the manager?

 

Did any of that happen at Swindon?

 

There's much talk of what happened or didn't happen at Swindon in comparison to what is going on now.

The real difference is that Swindon did not have a former cabinet minister and prominent politician resign from their board in protest at the appointment of a fascist sympathiser.

That created the big story and all SAFC have done since is to dig a deeper hole for themselves.

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  On 03/04/2013 at 11:16, TK-421 said:

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What is really embarrassing/frightening for Sunderland is how many of their fans seem genuinely excited by the prospect of having a self declared fascist in charge of the club  :idiot2:

Probably not a particularly well thought through appointment when they've already had fans charged for racist behaviour this season and Wearside is reputed to be fertile ground for BNP/EDL sympathisers.

Someone in the club's heirarchy needs to take responsibility and make a firm and clear statement.

 

They already made their statement on Monday. Looks like they're just gonna try and ride out the media sh*tstorm till the end of the season.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly you're probably right , but their statement from Monday is looking very flimsy and badly out of date already.

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  On 03/04/2013 at 10:51, Ian W said:

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"At least Di Canio is honest about his fascist views "

 

Are you a fascist Paolo?

 

"Uh, I do not have to answer that because there was a statement and it was very clear and this is not the houses of parliament and I don't have to talk about politics"

 

So was that yes or no

 

"IS RIDICULOUS! IS RIDICULOUS FOR ME! I DO NOT HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, IS RIDICULOUS"

 

I know what you're saying, but I think his latest refusal to answer questions was more a desire to move on from the issue than a desire to deny what he has said in the past.

 

My only worry about the furore over his views is that I don't think it should necessarily be impossible for someone with strong political views to hold a senior or public position. The result of that is that everyone is battling to say that they believe the same thing and diversity of opinion is damaged.

 

Obviously the fans and sponsors etc have the right to object to him as well.

:thup: pretty much my feelings.

 

 

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  On 03/04/2013 at 12:32, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

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wonder if there will be chants of "they're fascist, you knooow, the mackems and di canioooo"

 

:lol::lol:

 

Or 'Oh Oh Oh he's fascist, you knooooow. Paoli Di Canio"

 

*Benito Di Canio

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