Deuce Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Don't blame Ba for leaving when he did. He played well for two seasons and earned his transfer. As if it's reasonable to expect a modern professional footballer to be loyal to any particular club these days anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Read it, i put it better Highly unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 i don't really have a grudge against him, good player did well for us, just think he is a mercenary and probably shouldn't be seen as a martyr or anything. I think Remy has more talent than Ba, but Ba will do brilliantly for any team that can get a cross into him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Read it, i put it better Highly unlikely. Depends on the IQ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 What's all this? Can't we all just get along? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Ba did nothing wrong, he was talking about signing a new contract if the clause about his knee was removed. If he was mercenary, so were we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 .com mention there has no been confirmation whether Lille get a sell-on fee. Didn't think of that - might get less than £8m if there is one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Read it, i put it better Highly unlikely. Depends on the IQ. What are you even on about? Am I getting called thick by bimpy FFS? FML to hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 What's all this? Can't we all just get along? It's just messing about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Read it, i put it better Highly unlikely. Depends on the IQ. What are you even on about? Am I getting called thick by bimpy FFS? FML to hell. Over reaction to nowt there IP, and i've been known to be very thick. Take right now for instance, i just dropped my cornetto, a mint fucker an all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Laters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Any player with any ambition to win anything, or progress needs to and has to leave us. Anyone who blames the players is an idiot, the owner and manager are the reasons, 100%. Not sure why anyone still gets angry at a player who leaves to join a club want to win stuff. Nolan (West Ham), Barton (QPR) are obviously after the money Enrique (Liverpool) fair enough. The only one I do blame is Carroll, he was earning more money than we could ever dream of, was given the number 9 shirt and doing what we all would absolutely love to do as Newcastle fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I probably blame Carroll the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Any player with any ambition to win anything, or progress needs to and has to leave us. Anyone who blames the players is an idiot, the owner and manager are the reasons, 100%. Not sure why anyone still gets angry at a player who leaves to join a club want to win stuff. Nolan (West Ham), Barton (QPR) are obviously after the money Enrique (Liverpool) fair enough. The only one I do blame is Carroll, he was earning more money than we could ever dream of, was given the number 9 shirt and doing what we all would absolutely love to do as Newcastle fans. Especially when you play for a club that publicly states to it's own fans that they're not interested in cups, as they get you to the Europa League which the manager has convinced the board is not worth bothering with. And seeing as we won't spend money to try to bridge the gap to the top 4. There's nothing left. We're a nothing club, run by a nothing owner, with a nothing manager. It's heartbreaking but the horrible reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Ba was the first to see where this club was headed and jumped ship as soon as he could. José Enrique Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I probably blame Carroll the least. You are being paid £40k a week, adored by the fans of the club you support and given the number 9 shirt but go to a club for a bit more money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I probably blame Carroll the least. You are being paid £40k a week, adored by the fans of the club you support and given the number 9 shirt but go to a club for a bit more money? I think if anyone believes the transfer request was genuine needs to read up on all the info that was available at the time. It seemed plain to me he'd been coerced/forced into it by Mike Ashley for the 'good of club'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 A bit more money, rumoured to be a 100k a week, and don't forget we didn't drive him to Liverpool we flew him in Mikes helicopter so we wouldn't miss the deadline to sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Any player with any ambition to win anything, or progress needs to and has to leave us. Anyone who blames the players is an idiot, the owner and manager are the reasons, 100%. Not sure why anyone still gets angry at a player who leaves to join a club want to win stuff. Nolan (West Ham), Barton (QPR) are obviously after the money Enrique (Liverpool) fair enough. The only one I do blame is Carroll, he was earning more money than we could ever dream of, was given the number 9 shirt and doing what we all would absolutely love to do as Newcastle fans. Especially when you play for a club that publicly states to it's own fans that they're not interested in cups, as they get you to the Europa League which the manager has convinced the board is not worth bothering with. And seeing as we won't spend money to try to bridge the gap to the top 4. There's nothing left. We're a nothing club, run by a nothing owner, with a nothing manager. It's heartbreaking but the horrible reality. Nothing club. Not even subtle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I probably blame Carroll the least. You are being paid £40k a week, adored by the fans of the club you support and given the number 9 shirt but go to a club for a bit more money? I think if anyone believes the transfer request was genuine needs to read up on all the info that was available at the time. It seemed plain to me he'd been coerced/forced into it by Mike Ashley for the 'good of club'. With a gun at his head by Luca Brasi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Any player with any ambition to win anything, or progress needs to and has to leave us. Anyone who blames the players is an idiot, the owner and manager are the reasons, 100%. Not sure why anyone still gets angry at a player who leaves to join a club want to win stuff. Nolan (West Ham), Barton (QPR) are obviously after the money Enrique (Liverpool) fair enough. The only one I do blame is Carroll, he was earning more money than we could ever dream of, was given the number 9 shirt and doing what we all would absolutely love to do as Newcastle fans. Especially when you play for a club that publicly states to it's own fans that they're not interested in cups, as they get you to the Europa League which the manager has convinced the board is not worth bothering with. And seeing as we won't spend money to try to bridge the gap to the top 4. There's nothing left. We're a nothing club, run by a nothing owner, with a nothing manager. It's heartbreaking but the horrible reality. Nothing club. Not even subtle. As we stand that's exactly what we are, we are geared to achieve nothing. And that won't change until Ashley leaves long term and Pardew short term. It's an awful state to be in and a horrible way to view the club you love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Any player with any ambition to win anything, or progress needs to and has to leave us. Anyone who blames the players is an idiot, the owner and manager are the reasons, 100%. Not sure why anyone still gets angry at a player who leaves to join a club want to win stuff. Nolan (West Ham), Barton (QPR) are obviously after the money Enrique (Liverpool) fair enough. The only one I do blame is Carroll, he was earning more money than we could ever dream of, was given the number 9 shirt and doing what we all would absolutely love to do as Newcastle fans. Especially when you play for a club that publicly states to it's own fans that they're not interested in cups, as they get you to the Europa League which the manager has convinced the board is not worth bothering with. And seeing as we won't spend money to try to bridge the gap to the top 4. There's nothing left. We're a nothing club, run by a nothing owner, with a nothing manager. It's heartbreaking but the horrible reality. Nothing club. Not even subtle. As we stand that's exactly what we are, we are geared to achieve nothing. And that won't change until Ashley leaves long term and Pardew short term. It's an awful state to be in and a horrible way to view the club you love. I agree, funnily enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 £8M? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Almost everyone is a mercenary at whatever job they happen to have. Company A is limited in scope and offers little room for advancement. Company B -- a better run and more ambitious outfit -- wants to hire you for more money. In any walk of life that's pretty much a simple decision. It's up to our club to display the sort of ambition that would allow for those types of employees to feel fulfilled. We won't, so they'll forever be moving onwards. And the Big Boy will happily line his pockets (even in a limited fashion) and then use the excuse that we simply can't compete. Rinse and repeat ad nauseam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 How can anyone blame any of our players for leaving? Our "club" doesn't want to win, just stay in the PL to rake in TV money and broadcast The Fat Controllers shitty sports brand. You'd be stupid to join us and stupid not to leave if you got the chance tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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