Guest Realist Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Ashley Cole is the exception, not the rule. See also: Giggs, Cafu, Scholes, Maldini, Inzhagi, Pirlo, Carlos. In General players at those ages, in their positions, become liabilities. Pointing out there've been a few that lasted beyond their shelf life in no way makes an argument in this instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Ashley Cole is the exception, not the rule. See also: Giggs, Cafu, Scholes, Maldini, Inzhagi, Pirlo, Carlos. In General players at those ages, in their positions, become liabilities. Pointing out there've been a few that lasted beyond their shelf life in no way makes an argument in this instance. While i agree with that in a sense it's not like we would have to pay huge money to get him. His fee is apparently in between 6 and 6.5m pounds which really is'nt a great deal of money in this day and age to gamble over. If we fail to buy him over the difference of a million which is apparently the difference atm then it's a bit silly imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 £6.7m might not seem that much for an international but when you consider that we'll not recoup much of that through resale it's still a decent fee, especially with Ashley's previous unwillingness to buy players who won't increase in value. The fact no other club has offered a better fee would suggest it's a fair price as well. Lille were happy enough with it before the Euros, obviously now they are hoping that exposure will draw in some other bids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Has not started for Lille tonight, and isn't on the bench. Does he have a knock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Still going to be pissed off if we don't get this guy, he'd be such a good signing. No idea if we're still in for Douglas but we need one or the other at the very least at the back.........if we got both, then I'd jizz for months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Has not started for Lille tonight, and isn't on the bench. Does he have a knock? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Jeez, Lille's new stadium cost 600m euros in total. Surprised they aren't desperate to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Ok lads, lets have a whip round and see if we can get enough money together for him. It's either that or Simpson... D'oh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Erik Pieters was at today's match apparently... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Erik Pieters was at today's match apparently... Peters thread ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Erik Pieters was at today's match apparently... Peters thread ? Thought it was just as relevant here TBH... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Erik Pieters was at today's match apparently... Peters thread ? Thought it was just as relevant here TBH... Yup if Peters is coming, then obviously that's the end of our hope to get Debuchy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Dreamt that he signed for Chelsea.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Erik Pieters was at today's match apparently... Peters thread ? Thought it was just as relevant here TBH... Yup if Peters is coming, then obviously that's the end of our hope to get Debuchy I tend to think he is more of a squad player along the lines of Anita, can play both LB and CB, if he came i think it would end the search for CB not Debuchy imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Would hope so Bimby but i can't see tbh, if we buy Pieters we will move Santon to the right and end any chance in Debuchy IMO. I would love to see us sign Debuchy and Pieters for the reasons you mentioned but i can't see it at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Might get both if Simpson left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Would hope so Bimby but i can't see tbh, if we buy Pieters we will move Santon to the right and end any chance in Debuchy IMO. I would love to see us sign Debuchy and Pieters for the reasons you mentioned but i can't see it at all. I think Pieters is no go this window as he is injured but i think we will still sign him in the future. Debuchy is the one i think we will still go for, unless the bridges are already burnt. Our board have shown their willingness to wait, just so frustrating not to know anything as a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbxtn Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I asked Luke Edwards about Debuchy earlier and whether or not he thinks the deal is dead and he said he "will find out for sure tomorrow". An interesting choice of words I thought, not holding my breath that we'll hear anything like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I asked Luke Edwards about Debuchy earlier and whether or not he thinks the deal is dead and he said he "will find out for sure tomorrow". An interesting choice of words I thought, not holding my breath that we'll hear anything like. I think journos just don't like saying 'not a fucking clue mate, you heard something like?' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Debuchy in this side would be pretty fucking dreamy. Simpson didn't have a bad game, and it was actually his cross that (rather fortunately) fell to Ba, but a little part of my dies whenever he is on the ball in an advanced position. I hope Simpson stays though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I asked Luke Edwards about Debuchy earlier and whether or not he thinks the deal is dead and he said he "will find out for sure tomorrow". An interesting choice of words I thought, not holding my breath that we'll hear anything like. I think journos just don't like saying 'not a f***ing clue mate, you heard something like?' i think its just one of those jobs where you get paid for doing very little if anything at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 That or Douglas is sitting on a story, he wont reveal it until tomorrows paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Nah Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I really hope we dont kop out of signing Debuchy as go for someone like Erik Pieters instead. I think their comes a point where our stubbornness with regards to paying what we perceive as 'over the odds' for players comes detrimental to the team and shows a lack of ambition. Dont get me wrong, I definitely dont want to be going back to the days of splashing the cash on rubbish like Albert Luque or paying way way over the odds so much that it puts a serious financial strain on the club but when its blatant that a player like Debuchy would be a top class signing, potentially taking the team to the next level, I think we've got to bite the bullet and pay what they want, especially if it's not too extortionate. Obviously there might well be more to it than paying an extra million or so but thats how I see it on the face of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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