James Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Danny Simpson is that you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 So are people seriously saying Debuchy is a quick player that doesn´t lack pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hey ATB, your football knowledge is outstanding. So what have you to say in this case? He got done by Agbonlahor against Villa, who is still one of the quickest players in the league despite his recent injury trouble. Oscar went past him on one occasion yesterday - the only instance in the game where I can remember Debuchy really looking poor. Still, Oscar had momentum in his favour if we're just purely talking acceleration/speed. Similarly I could point to the instance where Debuchy drove out from our box at pace to begin the move which ended up with Sissoko's toe-poke at Cech. He looked anything but "slow" on that occasion. I'm not saying he's Linford Christie, but he's no slouch. Again you're seeing things that aren't there and making God-awful comments besides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 He'll be even more effective when he has Hatem playing ahead of him, a player who can beat his man and put in a good delivery with either foot. I thought he defended well yesterday, and was excellent going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 So are people seriously saying Debuchy is a quick player that doesn´t lack pace Not as fast as Usain Bolt. Not as slow as Teddy Sheringham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hey ATB, your football knowledge is outstanding. So what have you to say in this case? He got done by Agbonlahor against Villa, who is still one of the quickest players in the league despite his recent injury trouble. Oscar went past him on one occasion yesterday - the only instance in the game where I can remember Debuchy really looking poor. Still, Oscar had momentum in his favour if we're just purely talking acceleration/speed. Similarly I could point to the instance where Debuchy drove out from our box at pace to begin the move which ended up with Sissoko's toe-poke at Cech. He looked anything but "slow" on that occasion. I'm not saying he's Linford Christie, but he's no slouch. Again you're seeing things that aren't there and making God-awful comments besides. That´s your opinion. I still think he looks slow in the acceleration face and I think that has been one reason to all his tackles, and that is not just against Agbonlahor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Debuchy's been caught out here and there but he's just arrived in the league man To say he's a poor defender is ridiculous (in my opinion obviously) He's already shown some genuine quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Man is he slow or what? He would struggle even against fucking Shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Fucking hell, i think i might come back to this thread another day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Debuchy's been caught out here and there but he's just arrived in the league man To say he's a poor defender is ridiculous (in my opinion obviously) He's already shown some genuine quality. I have not said that. I say that he has been slow and that it has killed him in the defensive. I´m not saying that he can improve, I have just stated what I have been seeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Man is he slow or what? He would struggle even against f***ing Shola Yeah, because that was exactly what I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 All terrain bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hey ATB, your football knowledge is outstanding. So what have you to say in this case? He got done by Agbonlahor against Villa, who is still one of the quickest players in the league despite his recent injury trouble. Oscar went past him on one occasion yesterday - the only instance in the game where I can remember Debuchy really looking poor. Still, Oscar had momentum in his favour if we're just purely talking acceleration/speed. Similarly I could point to the instance where Debuchy drove out from our box at pace to begin the move which ended up with Sissoko's toe-poke at Cech. He looked anything but "slow" on that occasion. I'm not saying he's Linford Christie, but he's no slouch. Again you're seeing things that aren't there and making God-awful comments besides. That´s your opinion. I still think he looks slow in the acceleration face and I think that has been one reason to all his tackles, and that is not just against Agbonlahor. Give him a chance man ATB, hes still getting used to the pace of the English . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Give him time, I've got absolute confidence in him. Once he's adjusted fully we're going to have quite a right back. Caught out a few times but show me a defender who isn't in their first few games in this league. Still delighted that he's a NUFC player now, will only go from strength to strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hey ATB, your football knowledge is outstanding. So what have you to say in this case? He got done by Agbonlahor against Villa, who is still one of the quickest players in the league despite his recent injury trouble. Oscar went past him on one occasion yesterday - the only instance in the game where I can remember Debuchy really looking poor. Still, Oscar had momentum in his favour if we're just purely talking acceleration/speed. Similarly I could point to the instance where Debuchy drove out from our box at pace to begin the move which ended up with Sissoko's toe-poke at Cech. He looked anything but "slow" on that occasion. I'm not saying he's Linford Christie, but he's no slouch. Again you're seeing things that aren't there and making God-awful comments besides. That´s your opinion. I still think he looks slow in the acceleration face and I think that has been one reason to all his tackles, and that is not just against Agbonlahor. Give him a chance man ATB, hes still getting used to the pace of the English . As I said. I´m not slagging him off yet. I just think that he has looked slow, and to be honest not as good as I though. But that doesn´t mean that he won´t be a world beater here. Man, if your against the opinion you really get slaughtered here, not much room for a discussion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 He's quicker than he has shown a couple of moments, i think it's more about being quick in the mind so far. That will come with time, he'll learn to position himself quickly enough to have a better starting position. He got past Ashley Cole during the euros in the summer, is Cole slow? And we've seen moments in his game where he has shown that he's quicker than these couple of moments people chose to base their opinion on. Silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Manchester United fans questioned Evra and Vidic when they first arrived................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hey ATB, your football knowledge is outstanding. So what have you to say in this case? He got done by Agbonlahor against Villa, who is still one of the quickest players in the league despite his recent injury trouble. Oscar went past him on one occasion yesterday - the only instance in the game where I can remember Debuchy really looking poor. Still, Oscar had momentum in his favour if we're just purely talking acceleration/speed. Similarly I could point to the instance where Debuchy drove out from our box at pace to begin the move which ended up with Sissoko's toe-poke at Cech. He looked anything but "slow" on that occasion. I'm not saying he's Linford Christie, but he's no slouch. Again you're seeing things that aren't there and making God-awful comments besides. That´s your opinion. I still think he looks slow in the acceleration face and I think that has been one reason to all his tackles, and that is not just against Agbonlahor. Give him a chance man ATB, hes still getting used to the pace of the English . Give ATB a chance man, he's still getting used to supporting Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 What's up with the Debuchy bashing?! I honestly don't know what some people are watching. Did they think the guy was going to never make any mistakes or what? This guy got thrown into a defence playing poorly, and a team playing poorly, starting and playing the majority of games from day one. Think all being said and done he's been brilliant! See Evra's first months at Man U. Now he was terrible! Same will happen with MYM, 'What he doesn't completely stop us conceding? Fuck sake! Should have stuck with Williamson!'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Manchester United fans questioned Evra and Vidic when they first arrived................... Obviously I know he´s a good RB either wise he wouldn´t, for example, play in the euros. But are you not allowed to questioning someone? Evra and Vidic came good, but I´m sure a lot of player even has been labeled a great player after a few games and then just disappeared. It´s up to them/him to prove us wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hey ATB, your football knowledge is outstanding. So what have you to say in this case? He got done by Agbonlahor against Villa, who is still one of the quickest players in the league despite his recent injury trouble. Oscar went past him on one occasion yesterday - the only instance in the game where I can remember Debuchy really looking poor. Still, Oscar had momentum in his favour if we're just purely talking acceleration/speed. Similarly I could point to the instance where Debuchy drove out from our box at pace to begin the move which ended up with Sissoko's toe-poke at Cech. He looked anything but "slow" on that occasion. I'm not saying he's Linford Christie, but he's no slouch. Again you're seeing things that aren't there and making God-awful comments besides. That´s your opinion. I still think he looks slow in the acceleration face and I think that has been one reason to all his tackles, and that is not just against Agbonlahor. Give him a chance man ATB, hes still getting used to the pace of the English . Give ATB a chance man, he's still getting used to supporting Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Hey ATB, your football knowledge is outstanding. So what have you to say in this case? He got done by Agbonlahor against Villa, who is still one of the quickest players in the league despite his recent injury trouble. Oscar went past him on one occasion yesterday - the only instance in the game where I can remember Debuchy really looking poor. Still, Oscar had momentum in his favour if we're just purely talking acceleration/speed. Similarly I could point to the instance where Debuchy drove out from our box at pace to begin the move which ended up with Sissoko's toe-poke at Cech. He looked anything but "slow" on that occasion. I'm not saying he's Linford Christie, but he's no slouch. Again you're seeing things that aren't there and making God-awful comments besides. That´s your opinion. I still think he looks slow in the acceleration face and I think that has been one reason to all his tackles, and that is not just against Agbonlahor. Give him a chance man ATB, hes still getting used to the pace of the English . Give ATB a chance man, he's still getting used to supporting Newcastle United. I don´t think you ever could Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 If you're always talking bollocks you'll get slaughtered, people with reasonable points and good arguments disagree all the time. There's a big difference there. Truth, as always, lies somewhere in the middle. He's not particularly quick, but he's certainly not "slow". He hasn't defended particularly well at times, but he's not a bad defender. There's definitely merit to the argument that he should only get better in time, too. His start could probably be filed in the "solid, if unspectacular" folder for me at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 Jesus Christ. Santon got done a few times yesterday and he is probably the quickest player in our squad. It can happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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