Incognito Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Not even a regular in league 1 Coventrys team is he and that Wigan goal is his only goal in over 50 games too. Just another player signed who we hoped to make a quick buck on who isn't up to standard But he was a prospect up to the minute Paedew decided to play him on the wing against Benfica. Incidentally he was man of the match away at Millwall the Saturday before last. He clearly has regressed but even more clear who is responsible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Not even a regular in league 1 Coventrys team is he and that Wigan goal is his only goal in over 50 games too. Just another player signed who we hoped to make a quick buck on who isn't up to standard But he was a prospect up to the minute Paedew decided to play him on the wing against Benfica. Incidentally he was man of the match away at Millwall the Saturday before last. He clearly has regressed but even more clear who is responsible. Not denying he might of been a prospect. Nothing against him. He is in league 1 for a reason though and I think people like to use him and talk about him way better than he was just as another stick to beat pardew with. There's no need though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 So we can't criticise Pardew for playing him on the right wing in our biggest European game for nearly a decade? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Yeah by all means. But to suggest that has ruined him is ridiculous. If he had the talent and character and was as good as people talk about him on here then he would not be playing in league 1. Maybe at best he could be a steady championship player in future but he isn't good enough for NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 What the fuck is wrong with you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Just not joining in the love in for a player who ended up in league 1. You? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 There is no love-in, just regret that the club weren't able to progress a player who looked like he could have grown into a handy layer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Accounts I have heard of Pardew (eg that West Ham PA book) is that he has a vey narrow view of the world and believes in things like positive energy and other daft things. You can see things like Bigirama's religious requests, Ben Arfa nearly joining that sect, and even Jonas cancer being things that would have freaked out this described version of Pardew, creating negative energies he would have wanted to avoid. Also from accounts e.g Crumpy of Bigirama's pushing of his Christian mission was very much at odds with a predominantly Muslim or non-religious first team. So I can see how he may have got wrongly ostracised. Football is a narrow minded business, and individual differences are not widely celebrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I doubt he was handing out bibles to Muslims at training like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Yeah by all means. But to suggest that has ruined him is ridiculous. If he had the talent and character and was as good as people talk about him on here then he would not be playing in league 1. Maybe at best he could be a steady championship player in future but he isn't good enough for NUFC He was never seen again after that selection debacle like, was he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Usual mix of a talented player with attitude problems, ultimately losing the opportunity due to a combination of said issues and having Alan Pardew as a manager. Bog standard Pardew era stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Why is he in league 1 at 22 year old then? Let's see where he ends up in a couple of years. Any quality player with half decent character isn't going to let being played slightly out of position for a game make him end up in league 1. Surely if he had half the ability people on here say then he would of been picked up by at least another championship team by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 "believes in things like positive energy and other daft things" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Bog standard pardew era stuff sums it up well. He was part of that batch of Vuckic, abeid, amalfitano etc, mainly sub standard players who we got for peanuts to try and make a few quid on but ended up been far from the required standard. Hence why not a single one of them is anywhere near the premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 He looked really good for about half a season, we'll never know how he would have turned out if managed well and given games at a crucial time in his development. To argue the toss about it on a Thursday night when there is no correct answer is beyond tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Saw more in bigi than colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Buys player plays him around 25 times in a season including in our biggest game of recent time 'You're never playing' again, never says why Only NUFC, only Pardew. Fyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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