Guest Craig-NUFC Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Very strange signing considering the way we play. Way too easily overpowered in the middle, especially in a 4-4-2 system. Seems like his game revolves around short passes and quick movement, neither of which Pardew implements in our tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Should be part of a midfield three, or at right back. Nothing else. It's that simple really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Spoke to a few Ajax fans the other night and they loved him, didn't understand how I could think he was poor. The PL is far too quick for him IMO, and he's too lightweight for CM as today proved. Hopefully he can start to pick it up like Coloccini did after his first season but haven't even saw moments of genius like Colo showed. Still don't know why people get on his back during matches though, wont help him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Spoke to a few Ajax fans the other night and they loved him, didn't understand how I could think he was poor. The PL is far too quick for him IMO, and he's too lightweight for CM as today proved. Reading stuff like this makes me slightly depressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 PL midfields and their combative nature is light years away from the slower tempos of most european leagues like Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 We can start calling him s*** when he plays poorly in his actual position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Was getting some ridiculous criticism on Sunday. Apart from the incident where he was beasted by Diame he was decent, far better than Cabaye was anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I feel a bit sorry for him. We probably Cabaye'd him into signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'd like to know what we show to players when we sign them Because they always go on about how we play great stuff. What a pile of turd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Those 6 wins in a row + Man Utd Home last season's goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 PL midfields and their combative nature is light years away from the slower tempos of most european leagues like Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'd like to know what we show to players when we sign them Because they always go on about how we play great stuff. What a pile of turd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'd like to know what we show to players when we sign them Because they always go on about how we play great stuff. What a pile of turd Grainy footage of Botafogo games, with SJP terracing edited-in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 He's just adapting to the league, like almost all foreign players need to do, anyone writing him off or calling him shit is just stupid tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 He's just adapting to the league, like almost all foreign players need to do, anyone writing him off or calling him s*** is just stupid tbh. True, all we need to do is point to our captain marvel to show we need to give the foreign guys a little more time to bed in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 He's just adapting to the league, like almost all foreign players need to do, anyone writing him off or calling him s*** is just stupid tbh. True, all we need to do is point to our captain marvel to show we need to give the foreign guys a little more time to bed in. that was very lucky for us as, imo, if anyone had offered us close to what we paid for him and were prepared to match his wages, he'd have been away. also, does that idea mean we should have kept rozenhal, boumsong, guivarche for longer ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 For longer than what? 2 months? Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 He's just adapting to the league, like almost all foreign players need to do, anyone writing him off or calling him s*** is just stupid tbh. True, all we need to do is point to our captain marvel to show we need to give the foreign guys a little more time to bed in. that was very lucky for us as, imo, if anyone had offered us close to what we paid for him and were prepared to match his wages, he'd have been away. also, does that idea mean we should have kept rozenhal, boumsong, guivarche for longer ? Yeah you are right, he is obviously shit, lets get rid . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 He's just adapting to the league, like almost all foreign players need to do, anyone writing him off or calling him s*** is just stupid tbh. True, all we need to do is point to our captain marvel to show we need to give the foreign guys a little more time to bed in. that was very lucky for us as, imo, if anyone had offered us close to what we paid for him and were prepared to match his wages, he'd have been away. also, does that idea mean we should have kept rozenhal, boumsong, guivarche for longer ? Yeah you are right, he is obviously s***, lets get rid . . . . Don't think that's quite what he's saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 PL midfields and their combative nature is light years away from the slower tempos of most european leagues like Holland. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2234130/Alan-Pardew-calls-Cheick-Tiote-return-form.html English football is quicker and much more physical than in Holland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I'm not sure that Unbelievable was questioning the legitimacy of the contrast - more that saying the high-tempo, physical nature in the Prem can be described as 'lightyears away' as in superior. In footballing terms the helter-skelter, up and at 'em football, power-over-patience culture ingrained into our players continually leaves us behind the rest of the world when we go head to head internationally. May be wrong like. I don't think you can deny there's a significant style/cultural difference between football in Eredivisie and the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 In footballing terms the helter-skelter, up and at 'em football, power-over-patience culture ingrained into our players continually leaves us behind the rest of the world when we go head to head internationally. The national team suffers moreso from the success, not the style, of the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 In footballing terms the helter-skelter, up and at 'em football, power-over-patience culture ingrained into our players continually leaves us behind the rest of the world when we go head to head internationally. The national team suffers moreso from the success, not the style, of the Premier League. Disagree. The style of the league is a reflection of our footballing culture and the way we develop players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 In footballing terms the helter-skelter, up and at 'em football, power-over-patience culture ingrained into our players continually leaves us behind the rest of the world when we go head to head internationally. The national team suffers moreso from the success, not the style, of the Premier League. Disagree. The style of the league is a reflection of our footballing culture and the way we develop players. Players have been devloped pretty well in the last couple of decades, especially considering the inferior climate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I'm not sure that Unbelievable was questioning the legitimacy of the contrast - more that saying the high-tempo, physical nature in the Prem can be described as 'lightyears away' as in superior. In footballing terms the helter-skelter, up and at 'em football, power-over-patience culture ingrained into our players continually leaves us behind the rest of the world when we go head to head internationally. May be wrong like. I don't think you can deny there's a significant style/cultural difference between football in Eredivisie and the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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