AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Tbf he's pish. Simply not good enough. Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Think every player thread should have some Polls attached. How good is he? How good will he be? How well is he playing now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 He needs time... Just take Santon as an example to follow... Crap first season, culminating in some MOM performances, last night being one of them... Crap first season!? Dont watch Newcastle much then I take it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Big difference between a player that is bad vs a player that is playing badly or not adapting yet Big difference in a bad player vs a technically sound player playing in a position/system that doesn't suit 10 out of the 11 players in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 He looks like he's a bit low on confidence to me. Not sure of how he can affect games or what he's meant to be doing. He's weak too. But, he's quick, good stamina and good technique. Give him a bit of time. Reckon there's a tidy player in there who will come through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Impossible to judge him at this stage unless it's in a 3 and with other players who have been coached into this system. He keeps getting caught in possession and muscled off the ball - players who play for teams that can play this way don't even have the opportunity to be caught in possession because they've released the ball to a player in space almost immediately. We don't bother passing and moving so how can you judge a pass and move player who has absolutely no options to release the ball other than hang onto it and get caught? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Yes lets write him off already.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Impossible to judge him at this stage unless it's in a 3 and with other players who have been coached into this system. He keeps getting caught in possession and muscled off the ball - players who play for teams that can play this way don't even have the opportunity to be caught in possession because they've released the ball to a player in space almost immediately. We don't bother passing and moving so how can you judge a pass and move player who has absolutely no options to release the ball other than hang onto it and get caught? Is about right, but Anita is a symptom of our ludicrous 'buy whoever we can make a profit on' transfer policy, thus he's taking the heat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Impossible to judge him at this stage unless it's in a 3 and with other players who have been coached into this system. He keeps getting caught in possession and muscled off the ball - players who play for teams that can play this way don't even have the opportunity to be caught in possession because they've released the ball to a player in space almost immediately. We don't bother passing and moving so how can you judge a pass and move player who has absolutely no options to release the ball other than hang onto it and get caught? Is about right, but Anita is a symptom of our ludicrous 'buy whoever we can make a profit on' transfer policy, thus he's taking the heat. Leon Best aside, who have bought that we have made a substantial profit on in the past few years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I don't know the reasons behind it but fuck me, this guy was absolutely abysmal last night. Seriously, seriously bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I don't know the reasons behind it but fuck me, this guy was absolutely abysmal last night. Seriously, seriously bad. This. I can understand if it was PL game and he's not used to the pace and power etc. But it was a Europa Game against piss poor opposition who gave hime a lot more time and space yet he was largely anonymous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 TBF, even Messi would look like an idiot the way we are playing.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 still hasn't actually played in his position for us yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Impossible to judge him at this stage unless it's in a 3 and with other players who have been coached into this system. He keeps getting caught in possession and muscled off the ball - players who play for teams that can play this way don't even have the opportunity to be caught in possession because they've released the ball to a player in space almost immediately. We don't bother passing and moving so how can you judge a pass and move player who has absolutely no options to release the ball other than hang onto it and get caught? That's pretty much spot on I reckon - one of the standout features of our struggles recently is the almost complete lack of intelligent off-the-ball movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I think the lack of movement is a reason to persevere with the likes of Marveaux and Anita. At least they're players who seem to understand how to play basic passing football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 still hasn't actually played in his position for us yet. Which is where? He's been CM, RB and LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 still hasn't actually played in his position for us yet. Which is where? He's been CM, RB and LB. He's a defensive midfielder, think Makelele. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Looks like a really good player, you can see he's a product of the Ajax academy- very well groomed technically...he's an intelligent player. It's very hard to judge him in games where we are constantly outnumbered, though. Why wasn't Bigirimana holding with him last night? We got completely overrun (again) in the second half, Anita's been trying to do the work of two men in the last few games. He's come from a football environment where tactics such as Pardew's are alien to him, you can see the lack of movement from our team doesn't suit his ability and what he has to offer us. I really like him as a player and hope that we soon find a system that accommodates players like Vernon; under the right manager he could flourish. And for me, when people were bemoaning his signing saying we didn't need him: of course we did, we just needed to bolster our defensive ranks as well but failed miserably to do that. That's not his fault, that's Mike Ashley's fault for refusing to acknowledge the fact that to compete at the top domestically and in European competition he's got to spend money. It's shit, but the way football is nowadays it's incredibly difficult to compete when your sole aim is to balance the books. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I still like Anita. I'm starting to see why people don't but as a lad raised on nice football at Ajax, he's been thrust into this team. He'd be fine in the 4-3-3 we all know should exist, just not in 'hoofball with midgets'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Had his best spell in our colours last night, and then got taken off. Should have scored. I like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Playing well are you? I'll see about that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Will be moved on to Fulham in the summer, as he won't be considered good enough to play our expansive football. Will then go on to become the best midfielder in the league before moving on to Real or Barcelona to become one of the finest in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 promising signs against Southampton and probably had his best game for us, wouldn't be playing him at Stoke though against there giants, bring in Perch and keep Anita for the Wigan game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yes that makes sense, let's drop him as he hits form. Was impressed by him yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Encouraging that he could sense what was going on and was alone in trying to rectify it. Had an element of 'scruff of the neck' about it. Crazy for Pardew to bring him off when Jonas was totally out the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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