Greg Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 He was decent 2nd half but the way Everton were just walking through him and Colback as if they weren't there in the 1st half was embarrassing. We desperately need an upgrade on him and Colback if we aspire to be anything other than relegation fodder in this league. Not defending these two but part of this is due to the tactics - two deep centre mids almost on the toes of the central defenders every fucking game gives the opposition midfield free reign to do as they please in the middle of the park. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 He was decent 2nd half but the way Everton were just walking through him and Colback as if they weren't there in the 1st half was embarrassing. We desperately need an upgrade on him and Colback if we aspire to be anything other than relegation fodder in this league. Not defending these two but part of this is due to the tactics - two deep centre mids almost on the toes of the central defenders every f***ing game gives the opposition midfield free reign to do as they please in the middle of the park. Agree with that. Tactics certainly didn't help him or Colback but because they are both poor it means we can't be flexible in the way we play. I've seen many a game where a midfield 2 have completely dominated an opposition midfield 3 but those two are never going to be able to do that. They literally have no physical presence to them either which is important in the PL in those positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 He was decent 2nd half but the way Everton were just walking through him and Colback as if they weren't there in the 1st half was embarrassing. We desperately need an upgrade on him and Colback if we aspire to be anything other than relegation fodder in this league. Not defending these two but part of this is due to the tactics - two deep centre mids almost on the toes of the central defenders every f***ing game gives the opposition midfield free reign to do as they please in the middle of the park. We didn't start deep, though. We tried to push higher and were getting absolutely torn through. We only looked vaguely competent when the team moved deeper, closer together and tightened gaps. It's obviously hard for a midfield 2 to play against a 3, but especially hard when your two aren't even good in the first place. Central midfield is our absolute achilles, it effects how we defend and attack so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 If Mcclaren absolutely insists on playing them both Anita should be more advanced than Colback, he has the pace to run into space and his passing is far superior, he seems to link up really well with Sissoko going forward, something I've noticed in the last few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 He was decent 2nd half but the way Everton were just walking through him and Colback as if they weren't there in the 1st half was embarrassing. We desperately need an upgrade on him and Colback if we aspire to be anything other than relegation fodder in this league. Not defending these two but part of this is due to the tactics - two deep centre mids almost on the toes of the central defenders every f***ing game gives the opposition midfield free reign to do as they please in the middle of the park. We didn't start deep, though. We tried to push higher and were getting absolutely torn through. We only looked vaguely competent when the team moved deeper, closer together and tightened gaps. It's obviously hard for a midfield 2 to play against a 3, but especially hard when your two aren't even good in the first place. Central midfield is our absolute achilles, it effects how we defend and attack so much. The two central midfielders were deep and on the toes of the centre half from the first minute, as they have been almost every game this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 If Mcclaren absolutely insists on playing them both Anita should be more advanced than Colback, he has the pace to run into space and his passing is far superior, he seems to link up really well with Sissoko going forward, something I've noticed in the last few games. Problem is that only one of them defending would make us even more shocking than we already are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 If Mcclaren absolutely insists on playing them both Anita should be more advanced than Colback, he has the pace to run into space and his passing is far superior, he seems to link up really well with Sissoko going forward, something I've noticed in the last few games. Problem is that only one of them defending would make us even more shocking than we already are. This. We can chop and change tactics, play one deeper and one more advanced or put another body in the middle with them but nothing can make up for the fact that neither him or Colback are good enough options at PL level. They get exposed week in week out. We'll never control a football match with both these in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Hence the urgent need of a physically imposing centre back behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Hence the urgent need of a physically imposing centre back behind. We need one of those anyway to play alongside Mbemba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 He was decent 2nd half but the way Everton were just walking through him and Colback as if they weren't there in the 1st half was embarrassing. We desperately need an upgrade on him and Colback if we aspire to be anything other than relegation fodder in this league. Not defending these two but part of this is due to the tactics - two deep centre mids almost on the toes of the central defenders every f***ing game gives the opposition midfield free reign to do as they please in the middle of the park. We didn't start deep, though. We tried to push higher and were getting absolutely torn through. We only looked vaguely competent when the team moved deeper, closer together and tightened gaps. It's obviously hard for a midfield 2 to play against a 3, but especially hard when your two aren't even good in the first place. Central midfield is our absolute achilles, it effects how we defend and attack so much. The two central midfielders were deep and on the toes of the centre half from the first minute, as they have been almost every game this season. They weren't at all. That's why Everton were finding so many gaps in the first 20. We were playing quite a wide, relatively high shape and they were playing triangles through us with the extra man in the middle with massive ease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 He was decent 2nd half but the way Everton were just walking through him and Colback as if they weren't there in the 1st half was embarrassing. We desperately need an upgrade on him and Colback if we aspire to be anything other than relegation fodder in this league. Not defending these two but part of this is due to the tactics - two deep centre mids almost on the toes of the central defenders every f***ing game gives the opposition midfield free reign to do as they please in the middle of the park. We didn't start deep, though. We tried to push higher and were getting absolutely torn through. We only looked vaguely competent when the team moved deeper, closer together and tightened gaps. It's obviously hard for a midfield 2 to play against a 3, but especially hard when your two aren't even good in the first place. Central midfield is our absolute achilles, it effects how we defend and attack so much. The two central midfielders were deep and on the toes of the centre half from the first minute, as they have been almost every game this season. They weren't at all. That's why Everton were finding so many gaps in the first 20. We were playing quite a wide, relatively high shape and they were playing triangles through us with the extra man in the middle with massive ease. Not true. They picked us off like that a few times when we tried to attack but a lot of the Everton attacks were from their centre mids managing to find passes to their wide men and having time do as they please on the ball as they ran towards our line of 6 - because of the gaping hole between Colback and Anitra and then Perez - that's where the gaping hole was - not between the centre backs and Anita and Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 http://m.shieldsgazette.com/sport/newcastle-united/latest-nufc-news/steve-mcclaren-fears-the-worst-after-vurnon-anita-suffers-bad-hamstring-injury-1-7646157 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Looked more like an impact injury live, like a dead leg. Fingers crossed for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 He was decent 2nd half but the way Everton were just walking through him and Colback as if they weren't there in the 1st half was embarrassing. We desperately need an upgrade on him and Colback if we aspire to be anything other than relegation fodder in this league. Not defending these two but part of this is due to the tactics - two deep centre mids almost on the toes of the central defenders every f***ing game gives the opposition midfield free reign to do as they please in the middle of the park. Agree with that. Tactics certainly didn't help him or Colback but because they are both poor it means we can't be flexible in the way we play. I've seen many a game where a midfield 2 have completely dominated an opposition midfield 3 but those two are never going to be able to do that. They literally have no physical presence to them either which is important in the PL in those positions. Agreed. These two are asked to play deep because neither of them has the legs to get back if they get caught up the pitch when we lose possession. It's like playing with ten men. McClaren doesn't have the courage to ditch Colback and try De Jong or Sissoko in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Anita is shit no matter where you play him. Tries hard but he is a championship player at best and maybe not even physical enough for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Anita is shit no matter where you play him. Tries hard but he is a championship player at best and maybe not even physical enough for that Such hyperbole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Anita is shit no matter where you play him. Tries hard but he is a championship player at best and maybe not even physical enough for that Don't you rate Colback though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,95326.msg5794647.html#msg5794647 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hopefully he is out for a while, then the same thing to happen to Colback, so we can eventually shake up and change what is the worst CM in modern history. Fucking hate the pair of them, the useless, pointless pair of shit bastards. Don't hurry back you little fat arsed waste of space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Anita is s*** no matter where you play him. Tries hard but he is a championship player at best and maybe not even physical enough for that What the fuck is this shit? You sound like the retarded 80 year old blokes who drink in the club on a Sunday afternoon - absolutely fucking clueless. The type who don't actually watch games to make an opinion for themselves, you're the type who allows journalists and other retarded owld cunts to form your opinion. NEWSFLASH: Nobody wants to see Norman Hunter in modern day football! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Nobody wants to watch Vurnon Anita either tbf. He'd be a top Championship player like, that's silly, but shouldn't be starting for any serious Premier League outfit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Nobody wants to watch Vurnon Anita either tbf. He'd be a top Championship player like, that's silly, but shouldn't be starting for any serious Premier League outfit. He'd be fine for us given a capable partner in midfield. Definitely a contender for our best player this season - granted, that doesn't take much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Anita is s*** no matter where you play him. Tries hard but he is a championship player at best and maybe not even physical enough for that What the f*** is this s***? You sound like the retarded 80 year old blokes who drink in the club on a Sunday afternoon - absolutely f***ing clueless. The type who don't actually watch games to make an opinion for themselves, you're the type who allows journalists and other retarded owld c***s to form your opinion. NEWSFLASH: Nobody wants to see Norman Hunter in modern day football! And what the fuck is this shit? Just so happens he came from Ajax and not Sunderland which seems to save him getting any stick from some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Nobody wants to watch Vurnon Anita either tbf. He'd be a top Championship player like, that's silly, but shouldn't be starting for any serious Premier League outfit. He'd be fine for us given a capable partner in midfield. Definitely a contender for our best player this season - granted, that doesn't take much. He'd remain the pathetic weak link he is at the minute, with Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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