Vurnon Anita (now playing for RKC Waalwijk)

[TheHoob]

Because of the type of player he is I don't think he's ever going to win over some of his doubters. I'd still have him in above Colback but that is probably more just because I hate the little ginger scrote. Ideally I'd play neither.

[Fenham Mag]

How sad are you TCD? That analysis of Anita to prove a point.

[mozy]

At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him.

 

It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details.

[The College Dropout]

At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him.

 

It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details.

 

All evening Pelle came tremendously deep to win long-balls and the CB's where uncomfortable coming out so far. Anita was always close by but was seemingly picking up WP. Normally, Tiote would go for those long-balls.

 

Around the 21 minute mark Dummett wins the first header against Pelle, gets scared that he's so deep he runs back towards goal and Pelle has the second ball to himself. The 2 hiding midgets nowhere in sight.

[Incognito]

At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him.

 

It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details.

No he doesn't. The ball is 40 yards from goal. It's as simple as that. Pelle is no threat there with his back to goal and the ball in the air. It only becomes dangerous once Coloccini neglects the back line that he should be marshalling, and attempts to win a ball he has no chance of winning, thus leaving us one short at the back. Seriously it's a schoolboy error to the nth degree.

[triggs]

Krul is definitely the most at fault for the first goal like

 

Edit: Wait are you talking about the first or second goal?

[mozy]

At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him.

 

It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details.

No he doesn't. The ball is 40 yards from goal. It's as simple as that. Pelle is no threat there with his back to goal and the ball in the air. It only becomes dangerous once Coloccini neglects the back line that he should be marshalling, and attempts to win a ball he has no chance of winning, thus leaving us one short at the back. Seriously it's a schoolboy error to the nth degree.

 

Colo (Or Dummett) should be touch tight with Pelle when he comes deep, simple. That's the mistake there. But you cannot left a centre forward bring the ball down on his chest surrounded by no-one, under no pressure within 40 yards of our goal. Also, we weren't one short at the back as they only had Elia there?

[Varadi]

At the risk of agreeing with TCD, Colo does have to go for that ball. The problem is that Pelle has managed to get away from whichever CB should have been on him, so has got a 5 yard headstart. Anita has then let JWP wander off him and Janmaat has let Elia run off him.

 

It's a combination of 4/5 players all making small mistakes, probably down to Carver not looking at the small details.

No he doesn't. The ball is 40 yards from goal. It's as simple as that. Pelle is no threat there with his back to goal and the ball in the air. It only becomes dangerous once Coloccini neglects the back line that he should be marshalling, and attempts to win a ball he has no chance of winning, thus leaving us one short at the back. Seriously it's a schoolboy error to the nth degree.

 

Exactly. Further errors were made but they all stemmed from Colo's misjudgement.

[The College Dropout]

There shouldn't be any danger no matter what happens in that 2nd picture I posted. It's 40 yards away from goal. There would be danger if Pelle was unchallenged.

 

There's only danger in the 3rd picture because 2 lads have gone to sleep.

 

Anyone saying Pelle should go unchallenged is deluded. Colo makes a mistake by not winning the challenge but it's not crucial or dangerous until Anita & Janmaat fall asleep.

 

For every long-ball played to Pelle, Anita is right next to WP - what is his purpose?

[Away Toon]

So bored of people hanging this lad out to dry.

So bored of seeing him create, score, tackle nothing.

[Deuce]

There's no room in our central midfield for a footballer like Big Vurn, mostly because we don't expect our central midfield to play football.

[Mistle17]

I don't see how you grow up playing football and don't see what i'm talking about. You don't let players bring the ball down in front of your defence - without a challenge. SOMEBODY HAS TO CHALLENGE HIM. It should be the DM not the CB.

 

This is moments before the first goal and highlights the problem. A long ball is pumped up. Dummett's come way out to challenge for it despite it being in a CM/DM zone. If Tiote or Abeid is on the pitch - they would challenge for that ball. Anita has zero interest and seems to be picking up Ward-Prowse anyway which while not ideal is okay - because ward-prowse is the danger if Pelle wins the ball.

 

According to people here - Dummett would be at fault if  we conceded.

 

http://s27.postimg.org/unk5hrgnz/1_Dummett.jpg

 

 

1. Look at how far away from the goal this is.

2. Anita is meant to be picking up Ward-Prowse, he should be able to see where WP wants the ball and anticipate it. Anita is ball-watching.

3. Janmaat should be closing that gap between himself and Dummett

 

http://s4.postimg.org/kjxy2niah/2_anita_goal_side_ward_prowse.jpg

 

 

Anita you had 1 job. How has WP been allowed to do this?

Janmaat's positioning is horrible.

Krul should save it anyway.

 

http://s4.postimg.org/6mg8gq15l/4_Ward.jpg

 

Erm...what? Dummet was right to challenge for that ball. Yes, Anita should be ready to defend the second ball. However, the backline should have dropped off deeper, especially knowing the threat of a diagonal run inside behind onto any flick on's- if we knew anything about Southampton we would know that they can go direct and cause problems with Pelle's physical and aerial presence. If Dummet or Colo steps out then the remaining back 3 have got to drop off to defend the space in behind. Anita cannot effect that. Maybe he should just drop into the back line or cover the CB challenging, but there's obviously a lack of tactical instruction and organisation there.

 

And as for the last picture, what on earth is the matter with you? Honestly, has Vurn been texting your missus or something? Look at that back 3, it's in a staggered formation. Dummett stepped out too soon, whilst Haidara is totally ineffective. They should have retreated to the edge of the area and tried to delay it before confronting Warde-Prowse.

 

Anita will never win headers against someone like Pelle, we should have planned for those direct balls. But we didn't. We should have got the ball into Anita more instead of hoofing it up to Ayoze vs 4 Southampton defenders, but, we didn't.

 

Honestly, criticism and posts like above of Anita are ridiculous. He's a very good player, not world class or cutting edge, but he's capable of being a very good player for us. It'll be hard for him when Colback is worshiped by all and sundry in charge though.

 

 

 

 

[mozy]

There's honestly very little between Colback and Anita, having them both in the same team is a recipe for failure.

[The College Dropout]

Mistle - you're clueless.

 

Anita has decided or been instructed to ignore Pelle and concentrate on picking uo the man closest to him WP - who is the danger man. Anita gets attracted to the ball and WP has the time in the world to pick his pass. The second ball is crucial.

 

 

[duo]

The goals were down to poor organisation - it's easy to pick an individual but the team was at fault.

[Mistle17]

Mistle - you're clueless.

 

Anita has decided or been instructed to ignore Pelle and concentrate on picking uo the man closest to him WP - who is the danger man. Anita gets attracted to the ball and WP has the time in the world to pick his pass. The second ball is crucial.

 

 

 

Ok

 

Edit- And as I said, Vurn should have been ready to challenge for the second ball and he can be held accountable for that. But to say that goal was his fault is slightly depressing.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

Anita cost NUFC around £6.27M. We wouldn't get anywhere near that fee for him now. Even at the time we bought him we didn't really need him (unless Tiote was sold and Anita is hardly a like for like replacement). He was also the only player we bought in that transfer window. His transfer never really made any sense.

 

If we could sell Anita and put that money toward a creative, attacking midfielder I'd do that now. For some bizarre reason NUFC play two defensive midfielders. Tiote, Anita, Colback, Abeid and Bigirimana can play that role. We can afford to sell at least one of them as long as the money is spent elsewhere on the team.

[Dave]

There's honestly very little between Colback and Anita, having them both in the same team is a recipe for failure.

 

Agree with that, though I believe Anita has more ability. Together there's fuck all there.

[r0cafella]

Anita is a better play technically and tactically for me.

 

His stature is a massive flaw in this league mind.

[Kanj]

It was widely talked about within the club to have Tiote play a DM role, Anita a ball playing central midfielder and Cabaye further forward. Pardew was noted for saying shit like "Keep the ball, win the game" or something, basically alluding to us having a central midfield set out to pass teams off the pitch.

 

Anyway, there were a number of players at fault for both goals. And talking about fees recovered for a player who is terribly out of form and underused like Anita is pointless. There's only a small handful of players who would command a premium on their fees we originally paid and most of that is down to the mismanagement and use (lack-of) by our former manager, Alan Pardew.

 

Again, shocking that this needs to be brought up and repeated again - should be obvious by now.

[Tsunami]

This thread us all about what people think Anita is capable of against others pointing out what he actually does.

 

He does f*** all, he doesn't beat an opponent to get beyond them, he wants too much time on the ball, he loses concentration, he doesn't break up play, he's easily pushed off the ball and he offers very little creativity. Pointing out the odd but of good play doesn't wash.

 

I don't care where he plays, he's not going to be good enough for this league and we have better options for what he'd offer in any position. There's posts on here suggesting he could dictate play if played in the correct position. Bollocks could he. He needs a slower, less physical league. He's trundled around the pitch like little boy lost.

[Mistle17]

This thread us all about what people think Anita is capable of against others pointing out what he actually does.

 

He does f*** all, he doesn't beat an opponent to get beyond them, he wants too much time on the ball, he loses concentration, he doesn't break up play, he's easily pushed off the ball and he offers very little creativity. Pointing out the odd but of good play doesn't wash.

 

I don't care where he plays, he's not going to be good enough for this league and we have better options for what he'd offer in any position. There's posts on here suggesting he could dictate play if played in the correct position. Bollocks could he. He needs a slower, less physical league. He's trundled around the pitch like little boy lost.

 

Because Tiote is so much better because he flies into tackles, concedes fouls on the edge of the area and needless yellows? His distribution is absolutely no better than Anita's. Play Abeid alongside Anita to offer some physical compensation, not the passenger that is Colback.

 

People on here also seem to neglect the point that confidence is an issue for players, also. If you were frozen out by your manager for a matter of seasons and now found yourself in the team only because another player is on International duty, whilst the system doesn't play anywhere near to your strengths, you probably wouldn't feel too great about yourself.

 

I like him as a player, and although he's not the answer to our problems he would definitely benefit the team given a run in the team under a competent manager. It's just so frustrating reading people dismiss him because he 'can't cope with the physicality of the Premiership' etc. He is one of our better players and we are not utilising him.

[Tsunami]

This thread us all about what people think Anita is capable of against others pointing out what he actually does.

 

He does f*** all, he doesn't beat an opponent to get beyond them, he wants too much time on the ball, he loses concentration, he doesn't break up play, he's easily pushed off the ball and he offers very little creativity. Pointing out the odd but of good play doesn't wash.

 

I don't care where he plays, he's not going to be good enough for this league and we have better options for what he'd offer in any position. There's posts on here suggesting he could dictate play if played in the correct position. Bollocks could he. He needs a slower, less physical league. He's trundled around the pitch like little boy lost.

 

Because Tiote is so much better because he flies into tackles, concedes fouls on the edge of the area and needless yellows? His distribution is absolutely no better than Anita's. Play Abeid alongside Anita to offer some physical compensation, not the passenger that is Colback.

 

People on here also seem to neglect the point that confidence is an issue for players, also. If you were frozen out by your manager for a matter of seasons and now found yourself in the team only because another player is on International duty, whilst the system doesn't play anywhere near to your strengths, you probably wouldn't feel too great about yourself.

 

I like him as a player, and although he's not the answer to our problems he would definitely benefit the team given a run in the team under a competent manager. It's just so frustrating reading people dismiss him because he 'can't cope with the physicality of the Premiership' etc. He is one of our better players and we are not utilising him.

 

Your last sentence is laughable. Tiote is a walking disaster at the moment but is still a better option than Anita. Colback has been far better than Anita. He's had his chances, he's not taken them.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

I wouldn't say no to NUFC selling Anita and Tiote as long as they were replaced. Tiote is a danger to the team and Anita doesn't impact the game.

[sempuki]

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2015/01/22/i-still-cant-believe-vurnon-anitas-transfer-to-newcastle-united-psv-eindhoven-technical-director/184996/