Barnes23 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 €8m would have sealed the Debuchy deal, which was far more important than this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 €8m would have sealed the Debuchy deal, which was far more important than this one. IYO, i'd put them equally. a player like debuchy could massivly alter the way we play for the better. however so would a player for that role in a middle 3, cover for when cabaye or tiote or out etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Probably has been said already, but i would have classed our priority positions as being a RB,CB and a CF. This deal is very meh to me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Unless we see him as a fullback option, he can cover there, this is MA's 2 for 1 signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Probably has been said already, but i would have classed our priority positions as being a RB,CB and a CF. This deal is very meh to me... do you think our best formation is 4-3-3 ? who else should play in that 3 ? who would you choose to play any long spell of games like guthrie did last season ? do we have to sign players in order of priority ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 €8m would have sealed the Debuchy deal, which was far more important than this one. IYO, i'd put them equally. a player like debuchy could massivly alter the way we play for the better. however so would a player for that role in a middle 3, cover for when cabaye or tiote or out etc. Debuchy would be an immediate and significant upgrade on the obvious weak link in our team for a reasonable price. Anita is another option for a position where we are pretty well covered imo, especially as its unclear how often we will play 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 €8m would have sealed the Debuchy deal, which was far more important than this one. IYO, i'd put them equally. a player like debuchy could massivly alter the way we play for the better. however so would a player for that role in a middle 3, cover for when cabaye or tiote or out etc. Debuchy would be an immediate and significant upgrade on the obvious weak link in our team for a reasonable price. Anita is another option for a position where we are pretty well covered imo, especially as its unclear how often we will play 4-3-3. covered in numbers but no one you'd like to see in a long run of games and no one you'd like to see as a regular in a middle 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I don't think one's exclusive to the other tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 as interesting as anything else is the use of add ons in our deals. don't think there were any reported in the cisse,cabaye, tiote deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 If we're talking squad cover, releasing Danny Guthrie - signed for £2.5m and apparently paid a pittance by Premier League players' standards - on a free and replacing him with a £7m Holland international from Ajax doesn't seem like a very 'Mike Ashley' thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 If we're talking squad cover, releasing Danny Guthrie - signed for £2.5m and apparently paid a pittance by Premier League players' standards - on a free and replacing him with a £7m Holland international from Ajax doesn't seem like a very 'Mike Ashley' thing to do. it means he can play there in a 2 should we get an injury to one of the other 2, you know personally i see a middle 3 as the way to go and have done since we signed ben arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Probably has been said already, but i would have classed our priority positions as being a RB,CB and a CF. This deal is very meh to me... do you think our best formation is 4-3-3 ? who else should play in that 3 ? who would you choose to play any long spell of games like guthrie did last season ? do we have to sign players in order of priority ? I do think 4-3-3 is our best position, but i do not think that pardew does, so we probably wont play it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 If we're talking squad cover, releasing Danny Guthrie - signed for £2.5m and apparently paid a pittance by Premier League players' standards - on a free and replacing him with a £7m Holland international from Ajax doesn't seem like a very 'Mike Ashley' thing to do. Signing a Dutch international relatively cheap with the potential to sell for a lot more a few years down the line though, is very 'Mike Ashley'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Will be delighted with this signing if it happens, our depth at fullback and CM is more or less non-existent. Yes we need other signings, and hopefully we get them, but a CM was also very much needed. The fact that he can cover at fullback only makes it all the more attractive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 what's 8 mill euros in pounds? £6.27m by a rough google search. Hm,ok. Those of you who have seen him play,is he worth it? What is his best position? Backup or replacement for Tiote or Cabaye? Edit: fuck autocorrection on iPad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I don't think one's exclusive to the other tbh. Surely it holds significance in terms of budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 what's 8 mill euros in pounds? £6.27m by a rough google search. Hm,ok. Thoseof you who have seen him plan,is he worth it? What is his best position? Backup or replacement for Tiote or Cabaye? or alongside ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 If we're talking squad cover, releasing Danny Guthrie - signed for £2.5m and apparently paid a pittance by Premier League players' standards - on a free and replacing him with a £7m Holland international from Ajax doesn't seem like a very 'Mike Ashley' thing to do. He means cover if they get get injured or what ever, doesn't mean we are signing him as a mere back up or he wont start just that if Tiote or Cabaye were injured then he could play their role instead and there wouldn't be any real issues. But play alongside them usually, atm if one of them got injured for long periods then we are relying on the kids for long periods and results would likely suffer. But in the main he would be bought to play alongside them i imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Competition for places could be their thinking. Guthrie was never going to force his way into the team when Cab-Cab and Tiote were fit, whereas this lad might be good enough or do well enough to get in the first 11 regularly on merit and not just because he needs to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbxtn Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I've just watched three of four clips of this guy on Youtube, there's some good 5-10 min long videos of him if anyone hasn't seen him yet. The player that immediately came to mind when watching it was Leon Britton. He plays deep and keeps the ball moving tidily, always offering an option for the defenders. I did notice a lack of pressing from the opposition in all the highlights though, so I guess anyone could look half decent in those circumstances. Intriguing to see how we'd fit him in as people have already said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 If we're talking squad cover, releasing Danny Guthrie - signed for £2.5m and apparently paid a pittance by Premier League players' standards - on a free and replacing him with a £7m Holland international from Ajax doesn't seem like a very 'Mike Ashley' thing to do. Signing a Dutch international relatively cheap with the potential to sell for a lot more a few years down the line though, is very 'Mike Ashley'. Hang on, everyone says we don't actually do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I don't think one's exclusive to the other tbh. Surely it holds significance in terms of budget. Do you think we have a set budget? I think we showed with Cisse if a relative bargain is to be had, he'll get it. Why risk waiting until the summer and paying £10-12m for someone when he could pay £8m now? Think we could see something similar here. We might have not planned to buy a midfielder until January or even next summer but if a bargain comes up, I think he'd go for it early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 So maybe this meeting did happen yesterday.... I'd put another midfielder 2nd in the priority list behind Debuchy - I can definitely see why we're in for him, I'm just shocked we're paying such a fee for 'competition' rather than a nailed on starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 If we're talking squad cover, releasing Danny Guthrie - signed for £2.5m and apparently paid a pittance by Premier League players' standards - on a free and replacing him with a £7m Holland international from Ajax doesn't seem like a very 'Mike Ashley' thing to do. Signing a Dutch international relatively cheap with the potential to sell for a lot more a few years down the line though, is very 'Mike Ashley'. Hang on, everyone says we don't actually do this. Do they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 If we're talking squad cover, releasing Danny Guthrie - signed for £2.5m and apparently paid a pittance by Premier League players' standards - on a free and replacing him with a £7m Holland international from Ajax doesn't seem like a very 'Mike Ashley' thing to do. Signing a Dutch international relatively cheap with the potential to sell for a lot more a few years down the line though, is very 'Mike Ashley'. Hang on, everyone says we don't actually do this. he said "potential" to sell. most clubs do this. it's why talanetd 23 year olds tend to comand higher prices than similarly talented 33yr olds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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