Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Meh. More concerned they'll be offering him a bigger wage. Especially West Ham. Well if he joins a club like Fulham or West Ham for more money then we are best not signing him. People keep saying this as if it's some huge honour to represent us. Maybe for a born and bred Geordie it is, but I imagine for most football players any transfer deal is a tradeoff between wages, club profile and player prospect/squad role. Realistically we have to compete in the wages department just like everybody else if we want to attract the best players. I agree with you that we do have to compete on wages but our long term prospects of success are greater than that of Fulham or West Ham i.e better squad, higher recent league position, strong fan base, and potential to lure other quality players to further strengthen the team (see Debuchy indicating he would like to join). How much more would West Ham or Fulham offer than us? If the differentials are not too great i.e we offer £40K and they offer £45K a week I'd like to think a sane player would forgo the extra in favour of better prospects of long term success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 The Dutch factor of Jol will probably be a factor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Did i? in any case that was a very different scenario, Twente were asking for ridiculous amounts they are not this time. Also i dont believe it is, we are in Europe, we are contending with the likes of Spurs and Arsenal, we are showing ambition to go further. West Ham are likely to be in a relagation battle and Fulham are mid table at best. The Dutch factor of Jol will probably be a factor That would actually have some relevance if he wasn't Brazilian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 When was the last time we actually lost a signing because we were far too north? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Did i? in any case that was a very different scenario, Twente were asking for ridiculous amounts they are not this time. How do you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Bryan Ruiz all over again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Did i? in any case that was a very different scenario, Twente were asking for ridiculous amounts they are not this time. How do you know? Assumptions based on reports in the media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswan Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Did i? in any case that was a very different scenario, Twente were asking for ridiculous amounts they are not this time. Also i dont believe it is, we are in Europe, we are contending with the likes of Spurs and Arsenal, we are showing ambition to go further. West Ham are likely to be in a relagation battle and Fulham are mid table at best. The Dutch factor of Jol will probably be a factor That would actually have some relevance if he wasn't Brazilian Could have sworn Jol was Dutch like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Admittedly I would be annoyed if he went too one ofthose two. More because we seem to have been linked to him for like 3 consecutive windows now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Could have sworn Jol was Dutch like Yeah, but Douglas isn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 He will be soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Did i? in any case that was a very different scenario, Twente were asking for ridiculous amounts they are not this time. How do you know? Assumptions based on reports in the media. Do you not think FC Twente will want to maximise its fee, especially now there are apparently 3 Premiership clubs in for one of their players? Again, you are passing assumptions of as facts if you think NUFC will just meet whatever asking price FC Twente may have in mind and he will then choose us over them as we are obviously a much more attractive proposition. Don't you ever learn? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm going to use my amazing powers of foresight and say that he'll end up at Fulham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 eugh. Can see him going to West Ham as they'll offer more £££ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 eugh. Can see him going to West Ham as they'll offer more £££ If he does I hope he is as good as the last Brazilian centre back Big Sam had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Did i? in any case that was a very different scenario, Twente were asking for ridiculous amounts they are not this time. How do you know? Assumptions based on reports in the media. Do you not think FC Twente will want to maximise its fee, especially now there are apparently 3 Premiership clubs in for one of their players? Again, you are passing assumptions of as facts if you think NUFC will just meet whatever asking price FC Twente may have in mind and he will then choose us over them as we are obviously a much more attractive proposition. Don't you ever learn? How are Fulham and West Ham a more attractive proposition though? Gladbach was different because De Jong was promised a starter role as CF and CL football. It's hardly the same. I never said we would meet their evaluation i was talking about if we did, then i couldn't see Fulham and West Ham providing much competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I just hope there's a back-up option if this falls through. We simply cannot be left with Williamson-Taylor-Colo as our only CB if we want to move forward next season. Not with so many more games that we'd potentially be playing. Fucking West Ham, man. Detestable club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I just hope there's a back-up option if this falls through. We simply cannot be left with Williamson-Taylor-Colo as our only CB if we want to move forward next season. Not with so many more games that we'd potentially be playing. f***ing West Ham, man. Detestable club. Aye, Liverpool and West Ham are my two most disliked clubs in the PL. A lot of scum in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Ffs if london and big money are more important to him then oh well what a dick, still very annoying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Wham have to use money to match our standing atm, so at the least theyll drive our bid up perhaps more than we'd wanted if theyre really interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We're the club with the most potential out of the three. Although Fulham are close, especially with the London factor. London factor is well over played it only has any relevance if your successful. For s*** teams it's hardly an advantage at all. If he chooses Fulham or West Ham over us he wants his head looking at. Have we had a bid accepted for Douglas like? My post was using the scenario that all 3 clubs had accepted offers. Of course i know we haven't. But i don't consider Fulham and West Ham a threat, the only way they beat us to signing him is if we get cheap and don't give Twente what they want. Didn't you say similar regarding Luuk de Jong? Anyway, to discard West Ham and Fulham as serious contenders for his signature is incredibly arrogant and shortsighted if you'd ask me. Did i? in any case that was a very different scenario, Twente were asking for ridiculous amounts they are not this time. Also i dont believe it is, we are in Europe, we are contending with the likes of Spurs and Arsenal, we are showing ambition to go further. West Ham are likely to be in a relagation battle and Fulham are mid table at best. The Dutch factor of Jol will probably be a factor That would actually have some relevance if he wasn't Brazilian Yeah but Jol has a lot of pull in the Eredivisie in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We would have to be in pole position to sign him. Out of the 3 I don't think it's arrogant to say we are the biggest club & we do have European football. I'm getting a little tired of our fuckwit low bids though, if we aren't f***ing serious why bother? We can't continue to miss out on every one of our targets over a few quid here & there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We would have to be in pole position to sign him, out of the 3 I don't think it's arrogant to say we are the biggest club & we do have European football. I'm getting a little tired of our fuckwit low bids though, if we aren't fucking serious why bother? We can't continue to miss out on every one of our targets over a few quid here & there. What would you have offered as a first time bid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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