colinmk Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:34, brummie said: Quote Quote Good grief, that was terribly nervy from us tonight. Oldest player in the side was Guzan at 28. I can't remember seeing a younger starting XI for us in 35 plus years. Something has clearly happened between Lambert and Bent. Not starting him, I understand (and agree with). Not having him on the bench is f***ing nuts. havent you heard, Villa are pushing him out, cutting down on wages, wouldn't want the boy to get crocked before the big window opens again would you. That did occur to me, but then again, what's the point in doing as we are now - surely it'd only make him cheaper to get, if he's seen as not getting anywhere near the pitch. I think there's been a king-sized bust up behind the scenes. Must be on some mad wage? Can see why Lambert doesn't want him, trying to build a team with a bit of character , Bent doesn't fit the bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:30, brummie said: Good grief, that was terribly nervy from us tonight. Oldest player in the side was Guzan at 28. I can't remember seeing a younger starting XI for us in 35 plus years. Something has clearly happened between Lambert and Bent. Not starting him, I understand (and agree with). Not having him on the bench is fucking nuts. Bent is one of the best finishers in the league, should be starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:38, taxfree said: Quote Quote Quote Quote A third of the way through the season and we could be in the relegation zone by the end of the week. We're second bottom of the form table with some formidable fixtures coming up. I'd say it's a worry, wouldn't you? Nope, not in the slightest. We're having a bad run, our first in quite some time. We'll get important players back, improve and go on to have a mediocre season, possibly finishing in the top half. I can't believe I'm having to say this. Deary me. From one extreme to the other. Eh? Edited my post, have a look. One extreme (as you'd probably put it): People wanting him sacked now. Other extreme (= you): "Nothing to worry about at all". I was asked if it was a worry, in my opinion. I'm not worried, hence my answer. Not entirely sure how that warrants a 'deary me', whoever it was aimed at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I notice Villa scored from a set piece tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Lazio fans at it again tonight apparently, with more racist chants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:39, colinmk said: Quote Quote Quote Good grief, that was terribly nervy from us tonight. Oldest player in the side was Guzan at 28. I can't remember seeing a younger starting XI for us in 35 plus years. Something has clearly happened between Lambert and Bent. Not starting him, I understand (and agree with). Not having him on the bench is f***ing nuts. havent you heard, Villa are pushing him out, cutting down on wages, wouldn't want the boy to get crocked before the big window opens again would you. That did occur to me, but then again, what's the point in doing as we are now - surely it'd only make him cheaper to get, if he's seen as not getting anywhere near the pitch. I think there's been a king-sized bust up behind the scenes. Must be on some mad wage? Can see why Lambert doesn't want him, trying to build a team with a bit of character , Bent doesn't fit the bill. I totally understand that bit. Bent is a type of striker which is dying out - the type who does nothing (quite literally nothing) but put the ball in the bet. He won't drop back to pick the ball up, he won't run at defenders to make space for other players, all he does is his thing. Benteke is playing extremely well, and contributes so much more, he leads the line so well by comparison. All that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is Bent not even getting onto the bench. That suggests something afood behind the scenes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:44, Dave said: I notice Villa scored from a set piece tonight. First goal from a corner since 1995. Well, for at least 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:45, NEEJ_Hunter said: Lazio fans at it again tonight apparently, with more racist chants. I know a Lazio fan, nice guy but an absolute mentalist. Going off some of his stories, he sounds like one of the more normal ones, who draws a line at chucking bricks about while at matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:43, Parky said: Quote Good grief, that was terribly nervy from us tonight. Oldest player in the side was Guzan at 28. I can't remember seeing a younger starting XI for us in 35 plus years. Something has clearly happened between Lambert and Bent. Not starting him, I understand (and agree with). Not having him on the bench is fucking nuts. Bent is one of the best finishers in the league, should be starting. Only if he gets the ball, and if he's not prepared to work towards that himself, then there's a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Surely Bent to Liverpool in January is a decent shout, ruining that visual gag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'm not worried about relegation at all. There's worse in the league. Remember how shit we where when we went down? Even then we only needed another point to survive. A relegation battle? Maybe yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Martin Laursen and Jamie Redknapp just saying the same thing, btw. So it must be true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:50, Dave said: Surely Bent to Liverpool in January is a decent shout, ruining that visual gag. I've a feeling that if they did try that, they'd throw Downing into the deal. 15m for Bent, or 20m plus Downing etc etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 22:50, The College Dropout said: I'm not worried about relegation at all. There's worse in the league. Remember how shit we where when we went down? Even then we only needed another point to survive. A relegation battle? Maybe yes. So you're worried about us getting into a relegation battle but not worried about us actually going down because of that time we actually went down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 27/11/2012 at 21:21, Unbelievable! said: Rose is by far and away their best player. So has he been doing well? I've never had any faith that he'll make the grade, but most reports on his time at Sunderland have been really positive. I'd absolutely love it if he develops into a solid left-back - he's relatively cheap, and completely homegrown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Not trying to be pessimistic, but I'd never say never again. There were four clubs that I was always adamant were worse than us in 08/09, and two of them finished above us in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 28/11/2012 at 14:01, JH said: Not trying to be pessimistic, but I'd never say never again. There were four clubs that I was always adamant were worse than us in 08/09, and two of them finished above us in the end. Definitely, I'd never say we're too good to go down, that's nonsense. But at the same time, we need to remember just how abject we were that season, and how much of the season we spent at the bottom. We didn't even have players who offered the possibility of playing better. We aren't there yet. Though I am a bit concerned, a couple of wins will change the picture completely again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 28/11/2012 at 03:35, leffe186 said: Quote Rose is by far and away their best player. So has he been doing well? I've never had any faith that he'll make the grade, but most reports on his time at Sunderland have been really positive. I'd absolutely love it if he develops into a solid left-back - he's relatively cheap, and completely homegrown. Leeds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 28/11/2012 at 03:35, leffe186 said: Quote Rose is by far and away their best player. So has he been doing well? I've never had any faith that he'll make the grade, but most reports on his time at Sunderland have been really positive. I'd absolutely love it if he develops into a solid left-back - he's relatively cheap, and completely homegrown. He's been good the times I've seen Sunderland this season. Don't think he's their best player, Fletcher is, but his performances have consistently been better than the rest of the team. Think he might is being made to look better because he is an attacking full back and the midfield in front of him is so poor that he often looks like one of their most creative outlets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Exactly. Absolutely preposterous how a left back can consistently be a team's most creative outlet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 28/11/2012 at 15:06, Neil said: Exactly. Absolutely preposterous how a left back can consistently be a team's most creative outlet. Hmm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TaylorJ_01 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 28/11/2012 at 15:06, Neil said: Exactly. Absolutely preposterous how a left back can consistently be a team's most creative outlet. I assume you're saying that with an element of sarcasm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 28/11/2012 at 15:06, Neil said: Exactly. Absolutely preposterous how a left back can consistently be a team's most creative outlet. Nufc without HBA.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 On 28/11/2012 at 15:08, TaylorJ_01 said: Quote Exactly. Absolutely preposterous how a left back can consistently be a team's most creative outlet. I assume you're saying that with an element of sarcasm Preposterous I tell you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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