Mole_Toonfan Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 The reason i'm more inclined to leave it well alone is because straight diving is easier to discipline than exaggerating contact. You go back over an incident and see someone like Suarez and Bale just falling down without even the slight touch than that is easy to discipline. But say you only get touched slightly and you make a meal out of it that's harder to eradicate and in the long run discipline players for. I understand the thought process, both quite frankly in an ideal world i would like to see stamped out but it doesn't seem very realistic. While is no contact at all and just falling to the floor to me if the governing body's concerned wanted to could easily eradicate or at least discipline plays for being guilty of it. I understand what your saying. Though if you take that MK Dons player today, who rounded the keeper... was he fouled? Was he impeded? Did that keeper actually hinder him running past at all? He might have brushed him slightley, but of course he didnt impede him. Hence the need for the player to throw himself to the ground, which he did. There wasnt even a natural stumble, if bieng brushed by the keeper did impede him, then he would have at least stumbled while trying to carry on running, in which case a penalty would have been fair do's. But he's ran past the keeper and thrown himself to the ground totally on his own accord to get the penalty. Everyone watching that knows deep down he's dived, they know it, of course he has. But theres a mental block been put on inccidents like this, a lot due to a culture of diving being promoted by ex-players & tv companies. Its created a mentality that theres is nothing wrong whatsoever for a player to cheat if he's touched in the slighest way. Thats the biggest obstacle imo, getting past this stupid mental barrier despite what the like of 'good old kammy' & sky spew out, because now people are not even believeing their own eyes anymore when watching replays. I completely agree with what you are saying, my concern is punishing the people who do this. It seems to do me the type of "no-contact" dives are easier to control and punish people for than punishing people for over exaggerating contact. In an ideal world i'd like it all completely eradicated from the game but that seems very difficult while stamping on the obvious Suarez and Bale like dives does not seem very hard at all to me. Also the point on culture is 100% correct it probably is the biggest obstacle. Quite sad watching Ronaldinho nowadays. Indeed but it has been the same for probably nearly 5 years now, the most sad about it all is his age..... He's 32 years old and should still be playing CL football but he hasn't been playing at the top level for a very long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLes9 Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Quite sad watching Ronaldinho nowadays. Indeed but it has been the same for probably nearly 5 years now, the most sad about it all is his age..... He's 32 years old and should still be playing CL football but he hasn't been playing at the top level for a very long time. Brazilian players always seem to peak early then drop off. ( Kaka & Adriano to name a couple). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Yeah, even Ronaldo was not really the player he should have been which is ridiculous to say but partying and injuries did stop him from reaching a level that he was truly capable of. Shame really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 if there was one Brazilian player who went against that rule it would be Cacapa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Imagine in a few years when Neymar turns fat then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I love watching Zidane's highlights. He's tripped almost every time he tries to beat a player, but doesn't go down. Hate to see players going down so easily. It ruins the flow of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Why is exaggerating contact seen as acceptable though? Nobody does it any other sport. It's not acceptable but exaggerating contact is nowhere near the same as diving and i get the feeling that some people feel they are the same thing. For example Jonas exaggerates contact each and every week but would we call him a diver? no. Jonas dives all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I love watching Zidane's highlights. He's tripped almost every time he tries to beat a player, but doesn't go down. Hate to see players going down so easily. It ruins the flow of the game. Messi is the same man, if the lad can stay up then he will 9 times out of 10. It's shocking that it's harder to name this type of player now than it is to name the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I love watching Zidane's highlights. He's tripped almost every time he tries to beat a player, but doesn't go down. Hate to see players going down so easily. It ruins the flow of the game. Messi is the same man, if the lad can stay up then he will 9 times out of 10. It's shocking that it's harder to name this type of player now than it is to name the others. Ben Arfa too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Norway u21 4-1 up against France. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Make that 5. Jo Inge Berget, the one we've been linked to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Lens puts Holland 1 up vs Romania with a header from well outside of the penalty area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Klose has scored twice so far against Sweden, equaling Gerd Muller's international goal scoring record, so has a very good chance of breaking it tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 how are scotland still in this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Spain 1-0 against the Frogs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Great free kick from wor Yo, when he doesn't float it towards the back post... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 What the fuck was that tackle??? And penalty saved! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Did they rest Hazard against Scotland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Did they rest Hazard against Scotland? is that aiden azaarrr? hate our commentators Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 San Marino still at 0-0. Selva just came on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 San Marino still at 0-0. Selva just came on Whyyyyyyyyyyy??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Germany are taking the piss out of Sweden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 San Marino still at 0-0. Selva just came on Whyyyyyyyyyyy??? They've been scrappily clearing the ball out of the box for about an hour, goal was a matter of time. Soooo bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 "and Scotland have a corner, would you believe!" cannat believe their luck, bless 'em. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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