Skirge Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Been quiet on the Owen front for a few weeks, but he has been on SSN saying he plans on being back for around March time. Will be interesting once he is back to see how we play, can Roeder play Martisn and Owen together ? lots of pace there but big lack of height. Mind both are good int he air, well Owen is handy with his heed and Martins can leap like a salmon. Still think you need a bit of height uptop theough, even if we use Dyer behind them as the midfeilder to get forward there is still no height. A tall striker is what we need in jan window not another short arse. Funny how March was mentiod on SSN yet its not on mentiond on their site. Michael Owen has told Sky Sports News he is determined to return to action at some stage this season. The Newcastle United striker has been out of action since suffering an horrific knee injury while on World Cup duty with England. Owen has received treatment from revered American knee specialist Dr Richard Steadman and he is now on the road to recovery. The 26-year-old will have a scan in January and provided the results are positive, he is planning to return to the Newcastle side at some point this term. "I am on the full stretch to get back to fitness," he told Sky Sports News. "Turn of the year, I will have a scan and as long as everything is knitting together nicely, I will be able to press on. "If you take a time limit from the operation of six to nine months then you work on that. Why not six months or seven months? Why settle for nine months? "I am really positive I can play again this year. That is what keeps me going in the gym." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 he's played Dyer and Martins the last two PL-games so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to play Martins and Owen. Owen is just what we need right now, a goal scorer. Sure, Sib has taken on the role well enough, but he's not even a patch on Owen. I'm really looking forward to seeing an Owen-Martins partnership with Zoggy and Dyer down the flanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 he's played Dyer and Martins the last two PL-games so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to play Martins and Owen. Owen is just what we need right now, a goal scorer. Sure, Sib has taken on the role well enough, but he's not even a patch on Owen. I'm really looking forward to seeing an Owen-Martins partnership with Zoggy and Dyer down the flanks. Well one things for sure, we won't be short on pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigTrev Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 he's played Dyer and Martins the last two PL-games so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to play Martins and Owen. Owen is just what we need right now, a goal scorer. Sure, Sib has taken on the role well enough, but he's not even a patch on Owen. I'm really looking forward to seeing an Owen-Martins partnership with Zoggy and Dyer down the flanks. how about owen-martins up top with zog and wright-philips on the wing and dyer through the middle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 he's played Dyer and Martins the last two PL-games so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to play Martins and Owen. Owen is just what we need right now, a goal scorer. Sure, Sib has taken on the role well enough, but he's not even a patch on Owen. I'm really looking forward to seeing an Owen-Martins partnership with Zoggy and Dyer down the flanks. how about owen-martins up top with zog and wright-philips on the wing and dyer through the middle Doesn't sound too bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 If we can keep the ball on the deck, then i don't see why Owen and Martins with Dyer on the right wouldn't work. With players like Emre Solano Butt who would to keep it on the floor... we can become a crappy version of Arsenal if you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 he's played Dyer and Martins the last two PL-games so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to play Martins and Owen. Owen is just what we need right now, a goal scorer. Sure, Sib has taken on the role well enough, but he's not even a patch on Owen. I'm really looking forward to seeing an Owen-Martins partnership with Zoggy and Dyer down the flanks. Well one things for sure, we won't be short on pace Good on the counter attack you'd have thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 he's played Dyer and Martins the last two PL-games so I don't see why he shouldn't be able to play Martins and Owen. Owen is just what we need right now, a goal scorer. Sure, Sib has taken on the role well enough, but he's not even a patch on Owen. I'm really looking forward to seeing an Owen-Martins partnership with Zoggy and Dyer down the flanks. Well one things for sure, we won't be short on pace Good on the counter attack you'd have thought with the right quick passing out from the back then yes, when we break it could be so fast there won't be to many teams pushing everyone up into wor box for corners and freekicks. They will have to be leaving atleast 2 back everytime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Owen hasn't been quick in years. What he does have though is the movement and instinctive finishing we lack at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Owen hasn't been quick in years. What he does have though is the movement and instinctive finishing we lack at the moment. Spot on, I have been saying for a while some people seem to think Owen's thread is/was his pace. IMO this was only a bonus to his real threat which is his excellent movement and positional sense with clinical finishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChickenKiev Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I'd go for Owen - Luque up front....they'd compliment eachother lovely bluebiggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Luque doesn't complement anyone, he's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Looking forward to seeing Mickey back as well, and Roeder's handling of Dyer suggests when he comes back it will be when he's completely ready Not sure we need a tall striker for the first team, although it would be nice as an option to change things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonpete1892 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 In my eyes, Martins was a replacement for Owen and therefore they were never designed to play together. We need 1 maybe 2 tall forwards in the window because we'll suffer in set pieces / or the the counter attack afterwards (defense isnt really that tall/quick either). I don't think Owen will ever get anywhere near he was even when he joined Newcastle, nevermind what he was at Liverpool. But theres always hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heero Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 still i like to see owen and martins up front, lots of defenders would be worried with those 2 pacy lads. Just read something on the bbc site about everythins is going well for owen and he'll def play this season for us. Lets hope, would be nice to have everyone fit for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 :roll: Again with Owen as pacey lad comment. Dave is right: Owen is not a pacey striker. Despite his small size he is not quick; its his positioning and finishing that makes him remarkable - he is the new Gary Lineker. Martins would be a good compliment because HE is pacey - also despite his small size Martins is not half bad in the air - he can jump and he can win headers. Luque-Owen would be the worst possible combination we could make up because neither of them create moevemnt up front, but instead respond to others around them. If both of them played we might as well put two staues up front - both would be waiting for the other to do something. Pointless anyway - I doubt Owen will play for us again. He'll get fiit just in time for the Summer and someone will come in with an offer and he'll be off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 We could have a few options really.. @home ------------------Parker Milner---------------------------------Zoggy -----Dyer-------Owen------Martins OR away Dyer------Parker------Emre------Zoggy ----------Owen---------Martins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 i think they'll work together well. the problem with martins' game at the minute is that he plays unlike owen in that he wants to drop off and get invovled in the build up play. owen on the other hand rarely comes out to the wings or drops deep, he likes to stay central looking for goals. that's what martins could benefit with doing now, leave the approach play to the midfielders, and keep himself central for more box opportunities. that does however bode well for owen+martins together, as they'd dovetail lovely owen staying up for through balls, martins dropping deep, playing midfielders into crossing positions etc. plus martins likes to shoot from far, meaning defenders can get pulled out to block shots with owen chancing on the space in behind. that's a threat our team hasn't had since shearer was fit and firing a good 4/5 years ago, and bellamy in behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Owen hasn't been quick in years. What he does have though is the movement and instinctive finishing we lack at the moment. I think we know that he is not a pacey striker, but he's not "unpacey" if you know what i mean? When compared to Martins and Dyer, he is not quick, but I reckon he is still above avarage. and as you say, his movement and eye for goal is what we need like i said in my original post. I just mentioned the other three because I think that a combination of the four would mean (if they worked like they should, which they ofcourse probably won't under Roeder) one of the deadliest attacking combinations in the country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 he may not be "pacy" but im damn sure hes faster than most the squad..(bar dyer, zog, duff, martins)...or am i wrong? while on topic...what would the top 10 paciest players on the team be? 1. martins 2. dyer 3. zog 4. duff 5 - 10 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moe-Ali Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 1. martins 2. dyer 3. zog 4. duff 5. milner 6. luque 7. emre 8. parker 9. carr? 10. dont wanna offend anyone by putting them below carr.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 1. Martins 2. Dyer 3. Zog 4. Bramble 5. Milner 7. Duff 8. Emre 9. Baba 10. Parker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moe-Ali Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 ^joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Sometimes Zog seems quick, but other times hes seems quite ordinary! Emre looked quick (on the ball) against portsmouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Here's another one from premierleague.com. I wonder why his return is in the media again. Something up, or just the normal news cycle? http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=setSelectedId&nextPage=enNewsLatest&id=1544946&type=com.fapl.website.news.NewsItem&categoryCode=NewsLatestFAPremierLeagueNews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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