Chris_R Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Surely the small squad's his fault as well. It's not like he only took over last bloody week. The squad size is his fault The players we have are his fault The tactics we employ are his fault The performances are his fault The results are his fault Needs to give his head a shake, pretty fucking sharpish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganninup Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He's a cunt Always was He keeps looking or luck or a bit of magic Mainly because it was pure luck and individual pieces of magic that got 5th last year rather than anything he brought to the party. There is a reason he was managing in league one, never mind why he was sacked from a league one club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He's right, the players do need to take some of the blame however an admission his tactics aren't working would be welcomed. The fact he reverted to 433 for the last 20 minutes or so suggests he realises he's somewhat culpable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He's right, the players do need to take some of the blame however an admission his tactics aren't working would be welcomed. The fact he reverted to 433 for the last 20 minutes or so suggests he realises he's somewhat culpable. The fact that it has taken him 70 minutes to recognise that he had to change something with our formation isn't really a plus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 A lot of muscle injuries occurring at the moment suggests that he's not training the players properly in terms of fitness either. I know full well that his fans will say it's bad luck though, Souness used to get exactly the same defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 "we need the help from the best fans in the world now" patronizing tit. translates = please dont call for my head already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 A lot of muscle injuries occurring at the moment suggests that he's not training the players properly in terms of fitness either. I know full well that his fans will say it's bad luck though, Souness used to get exactly the same defence. It's the training pitches to blame, we're over training them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 f***ing blaming Europe and small squad again. p*ss off. But but this was the same guy who told us that we should realize that we have a good squad after we did not strengthen during the transfer window. Fuck off Pardew you slimy face hypocrite! You're not supposed to remember things like that. Mike and Derek wont like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know im going agaginst the grain here- but I think he has been let down by Ashley and left short of resources, finding hard to blame him. aye tactics formations blah blah- the problem here is players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know im going agaginst the grain here- but I think he has been let down by Ashley and left short of resources, finding hard to blame him. aye tactics formations blah blah- the problem here is players. Ah, I never looked at it that way before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know im going agaginst the grain here- but I think he has been let down by Ashley and left short of resources, finding hard to blame him. aye tactics formations blah blah- the problem here is players. A little from column A, a little from column B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know im going agaginst the grain here- but I think he has been let down by Ashley and left short of resources, finding hard to blame him. aye tactics formations blah blah- the problem here is players. I'm sure he read the small print. It probably wasn't even that small. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know im going agaginst the grain here- but I think he has been let down by Ashley and left short of resources, finding hard to blame him. aye tactics formations blah blah- the problem here is players. I agree with you. Pardew is not without blame, but the likes of Sammi, Shola, Williamson, Ferguson, Gosling, Obertan, Bigi and Anita (as he adapts) would struggle to get a game for another Premier League team. Taylor looks shite without Colo alongside him, and Cisse has been abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know im going agaginst the grain here- but I think he has been let down by Ashley and left short of resources, finding hard to blame him. aye tactics formations blah blah- the problem here is players. I'm sure he read the small print. It probably wasn't even that small. Im sure he, and the players were led to beleive there would be improvements if we got into europe only to be let down- thus destroying team moral. No proof , just a hunch on how its worked out. Suspect a few players had 'things' hinted at that never came off also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He would have the sympathy of the support in terms of resources if it wasn't for telling us every five minutes how grateful we should be to Mike and what a successful window we had. He can't have it both ways. That said, these last few performances have nothing to do with resources, as Dave has pointed out, we are still putting out a team more than capable of not getting utterly battered off Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He's used the word verve in probably the last five post-match interviews. When will he realize it's not going to suddenly happen if he doesn't change the system? You can't just tell players to play well and expect it to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I know im going agaginst the grain here- but I think he has been let down by Ashley and left short of resources, finding hard to blame him. aye tactics formations blah blah- the problem here is players. I agree with you. Pardew is not without blame, but the likes of Sammi, Shola, Williamson, Ferguson, Gosling, Obertan, Bigi and Anita (as he adapts) would struggle to get a game for another Premier League team. The majority of those struggle to get games for us in the premier league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Wullie- I dont think he is really talking to the fans in his interviews, I also think the frustration will be hurting him almost as much as us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He would have the sympathy of the support in terms of resources if it wasn't for telling us every five minutes how grateful we should be to Mike and what a successful window we had. He can't have it both ways. That said, these last few performances have nothing to do with resources, as Dave has pointed out, we are still putting out a team more than capable of not getting utterly battered off Southampton. i tend to agree, he has been let down by those above and we should have strengthened the team/squad from the position of strength that we had in the summer but we didn't need to hear that we should be grateful, the sensible thing to do was too add players not just keep what we had. Its not as if we had to spend millions, players like Diame could/should have been snapped up on Bosmans. While we are still putting teams out which should be capable of getting results i think the main thing is that our first choice 11 is really good but we drop so far when a couple go out. Colo is immense and holds the defence together but when he isn't there the defence looks all over the place. HBA is the creative force of the team and the biggest blow is Tiote and Cabaye, those 2 together MAKE our team and sadly for one reason or another we haven't had them on the pitch together enough this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardsleymagic Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 The thing is while its true that lack of investment is a big problem, the main thing for me is the tactics this season have been terrible and thats down to pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Pardew's incredibly lucky that the press seem to have not picked up on what's going on here. He's under very little pressure and receives next to no scrutiny at all. And having the confidence of the board, as well as a sparkling new 8 (eight) year contract, he's in a remarkably privileged position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 The next two months are going to be the biggest test of Ashley's ownership since relegation/the club being put up for sale. We'll lose 90% of the games in December. We'll be in the bottom 3 by Jan. a) Does he stick with AP? b) Does he invest heavily to keep the club up or stick to his 'value first' methodology that has, arguably, got us in this position in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He would have the sympathy of the support in terms of resources if it wasn't for telling us every five minutes how grateful we should be to Mike and what a successful window we had. He can't have it both ways. That said, these last few performances have nothing to do with resources, as Dave has pointed out, we are still putting out a team more than capable of not getting utterly battered off Southampton. i tend to agree, he has been let down by those above and we should have strengthened the team/squad from the position of strength that we had in the summer but we didn't need to hear that we should be grateful, the sensible thing to do was too add players not just keep what we had. Its not as if we had to spend millions, players like Diame could/should have been snapped up on Bosmans. While we are still putting teams out which should be capable of getting results i think the main thing is that our first choice 11 is really good but we drop so far when a couple go out. Colo is immense and holds the defence together but when he isn't there the defence looks all over the place. HBA is the creative force of the team and the biggest blow is Tiote and Cabaye, those 2 together MAKE our team and sadly for one reason or another we haven't had them on the pitch together enough this season. While injuries and suspensions are clearly affecting us, we rarely had more than one or two out before the West Ham game and it wasn't any better. I thought we were alright against Spurs, ever since then it has been absolutely rotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Furthermore I think you could add any number of players to the squad but under this coaching with this mentality, I don't see it getting any better. Every single player looks awful other than the ones who can skin people, namely Ben Arfa and Santon, because that's individualism. Any player who passes the ball will not survive in this team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He would have the sympathy of the support in terms of resources if it wasn't for telling us every five minutes how grateful we should be to Mike and what a successful window we had. He can't have it both ways. That said, these last few performances have nothing to do with resources, as Dave has pointed out, we are still putting out a team more than capable of not getting utterly battered off Southampton. Exactly, which is why he is Ashley's ideal manager because he won't rock the boat. No way he'll get sacked unless we are anchored in the bottom three in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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