Guest tollemache Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm a bit surprised Jonas has sustained a career as a winger rather than tending to play as a shuttling centre-mid, which is what he is clearly born to be. He's never offered any end product so having him playing as a winger with the nominal task of crossing (especially on his weaker foot), or cutting in to imitate someone who can shoot, has always seemed a bit daft for me. Left of centre in a 4-3-3 he comes into his own, dominating a huge area of the pitch with his work rate and setting up dangerous attacks with his runs through the middle before laying the ball off to more talented players. He's a natural carrilerro and one of the reasons Newcastle would appear to have the personnel for a 4-3-1-2 (Tiote and him either side of Cabaye with Ben Arfa in front of them). In any case, what he's been doing out on the wing all his life I've no idea, let alone a left winger in a 4-4-2 with a right-footed fullback behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 N'Zogbia was a twat too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm a bit surprised Jonas has sustained a career as a winger rather than tending to play as a shuttling centre-mid, which is what he is clearly born to be. He's never offered any end product so having him playing as a winger with the nominal task of crossing (especially on his weaker foot), or cutting in to imitate someone who can shoot, has always seemed a bit daft for me. Left of centre in a 4-3-3 he comes into his own, dominating a huge area of the pitch with his work rate and setting up dangerous attacks with his runs through the middle before laying the ball off to more talented players. He's a natural carrilerro and one of the reasons Newcastle would appear to have the personnel for a 4-3-1-2 (Tiote and him either side of Cabaye with Ben Arfa in front of them). In any case, what he's been doing out on the wing all his life I've no idea, let alone a left winger in a 4-4-2 with a right-footed fullback behind him. Needs a skinhead and some steroids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm a bit surprised Jonas has sustained a career as a winger rather than tending to play as a shuttling centre-mid, which is what he is clearly born to be. He's never offered any end product so having him playing as a winger with the nominal task of crossing (especially on his weaker foot), or cutting in to imitate someone who can shoot, has always seemed a bit daft for me. Left of centre in a 4-3-3 he comes into his own, dominating a huge area of the pitch with his work rate and setting up dangerous attacks with his runs through the middle before laying the ball off to more talented players. He's a natural carrilerro and one of the reasons Newcastle would appear to have the personnel for a 4-3-1-2 (Tiote and him either side of Cabaye with Ben Arfa in front of them). In any case, what he's been doing out on the wing all his life I've no idea, let alone a left winger in a 4-4-2 with a right-footed fullback behind him. Hello mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I'm a bit surprised Jonas has sustained a career as a winger rather than tending to play as a shuttling centre-mid, which is what he is clearly born to be. He's never offered any end product so having him playing as a winger with the nominal task of crossing (especially on his weaker foot), or cutting in to imitate someone who can shoot, has always seemed a bit daft for me. Left of centre in a 4-3-3 he comes into his own, dominating a huge area of the pitch with his work rate and setting up dangerous attacks with his runs through the middle before laying the ball off to more talented players. He's a natural carrilerro and one of the reasons Newcastle would appear to have the personnel for a 4-3-1-2 (Tiote and him either side of Cabaye with Ben Arfa in front of them). In any case, what he's been doing out on the wing all his life I've no idea, let alone a left winger in a 4-4-2 with a right-footed fullback behind him. Hello mate. I apologise in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Question in his presser: Even though the results haven't been coming, you've been consoled by the fact you have actually been creating chances? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/dowie.png 33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals The fact that only last month he suggested statistics were misleading aside, it is quite concerning that he seems to have such a simplistic view of attacking play, and thinks that more crosses = more goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Question in his presser: Even though the results haven't been coming, you've been consoled by the fact you have actually been creating chances? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/dowie.png 33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals The fact that only last month he suggested statistics were misleading aside, it is quite concerning that he seems to have such a simplistic view of attacking play, and thinks that more crosses = more goals. Are we expecting a 30-45% conversion rate from shots on target? Plus the fact that Simmo could float in 500 crosses and we still wouldn't score from them. Quality not quantity please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Question in his presser: Even though the results haven't been coming, you've been consoled by the fact you have actually been creating chances? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/dowie.png 33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals The fact that only last month he suggested statistics were misleading aside, it is quite concerning that he seems to have such a simplistic view of attacking play, and thinks that more crosses = more goals. How would you quantify chances or getting in positions to potentially create chances then, if asked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Question in his presser: Even though the results haven't been coming, you've been consoled by the fact you have actually been creating chances? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/dowie.png 33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals The fact that only last month he suggested statistics were misleading aside, it is quite concerning that he seems to have such a simplistic view of attacking play, and thinks that more crosses = more goals. How would you quantify chances or getting in positions to potentially create chances then, if asked? That's not the question he was asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Question in his presser: Even though the results haven't been coming, you've been consoled by the fact you have actually been creating chances? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/dowie.png 33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals The fact that only last month he suggested statistics were misleading aside, it is quite concerning that he seems to have such a simplistic view of attacking play, and thinks that more crosses = more goals. How would you quantify chances or getting in positions to potentially create chances then, if asked? That's not the question he was asked. That's not an answer to my question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Question in his presser: Even though the results haven't been coming, you've been consoled by the fact you have actually been creating chances? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/dowie.png 33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals The fact that only last month he suggested statistics were misleading aside, it is quite concerning that he seems to have such a simplistic view of attacking play, and thinks that more crosses = more goals. How would you quantify chances or getting in positions to potentially create chances then, if asked? That's not the question he was asked. That's not an answer to my question. And one is the other but the other is not so which one is a swan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Question in his presser: Even though the results haven't been coming, you've been consoled by the fact you have actually been creating chances? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Newcastle-Online/dowie.png 33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals The fact that only last month he suggested statistics were misleading aside, it is quite concerning that he seems to have such a simplistic view of attacking play, and thinks that more crosses = more goals. How would you quantify chances or getting in positions to potentially create chances then, if asked? That's not the question he was asked. That's not an answer to my question. Why are you asking that question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 "34 crosses and 7 shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory." Now I like stats myself, sort of rely on them in a way, but I cannot fucking stand comments like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Rather besumed myself by the fact that when Pardew sits down and watches the game again, he seem to see things in a very favourable light compared to the utter dogshit people with eyes that aren't fucked can see. He is striking me as rather mental tbh. I'm starting to hate the bloke with his spin and spew, i'm betting a bollock to a mushroom that he has media training, or bullshit speak and spell as i prefer to call it. Wish he would just come and say " i hold my hands up that my tactics have been shit". Mind you when i look in the mirror i see Brad Pitt. You see what you want to see, bigger the ego, bigger the delusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 "34 crosses and 7 shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory." Now I like stats myself, sort of rely on them in a way, but I cannot fucking stand comments like that The one from King Shola says "33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals", yours says "34 crosses and 7 shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory."? Are these quotes from the same sentence but being reported differently, or is he repeating himself and getting his stats wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Either way it's boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 "34 crosses and 7 shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory." Now I like stats myself, sort of rely on them in a way, but I cannot f***ing stand comments like that The one from King Shola says "33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals", yours says "34 crosses and 7 shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory."? Are these quotes from the same sentence but being reported differently, or is he repeating himself and getting his stats wrong? either way they're both bullshit! You can put in as many wank crosses as you like, to players who can't head the ball, and you'll still score fuck all. You can also dolly shots at the keeper all day long and you'll get the same result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 "34 crosses and 7 shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory." Now I like stats myself, sort of rely on them in a way, but I cannot fucking stand comments like that The one from King Shola says "33 crosses away from home and 7 shots on target usually equates to 2 or 3 goals", yours says "34 crosses and 7 shots on target away from home should get you close to a victory."? Are these quotes from the same sentence but being reported differently, or is he repeating himself and getting his stats wrong? I dunno, I wrote it exactly as he said it in his press conference. I must confess to dropping the repetition of "should". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 credit where it's due, we were HORRIFIC first half but writing 20 mins into the second it's been quite a reaction and i can only assume pardew is to praise for that (whatever the result may be) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Praise is a strong word even if we played really well second half. But let´s see what happens against QPR. That´s when he really should be shining. You would hope that we would continue to play like we did today, but I will wait until I sees it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 His HT work was undone by not making an attacking change sooner, and bringing off Cisse for Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 wut? i was praising the reaction to being 0-2 down and playing like absolute shite not praising him for the next match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Have to give him credit for the 2nd half regardless of the final outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Don't forget we started well early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Don't forget we started well early on. Deserves credit for one decent 10 minute spell in one first half this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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