Guest icemanblue Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Can't see what, mate? I've said the same as others; it's been a shit season and he's underperformed. Last season was fantastic and he overperformed. Next season should give us a better idea of where we are with him. It's not the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I don't think there's going to be that much to talk about from now until the end of the season TBH, except Europe and maybe HBA's return. Certainly nothing that will change anyone's opinion of Pardew either way. So the same debate will continue to be had endlessly. Sometimes we'll win, sometimes we'll lose, like in a normal season. After a defeat the mood on here will be more negative obviously, after a win it will be bearable. Everyone is pretty much set on their opinions of the manager. When we lose it is because of Pardew and when we win it is despite him. For some people at least, and those people who still have time for Pardew are wasting their time explaining why. I know this feeling well from explaining why I still had some support for Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Can't see what, mate? I've said the same as others; it's been a shit season and he's underperformed. Last season was fantastic and he overperformed. Next season should give us a better idea of where we are with him. It's not the end of the world. What if he massively overperformed last year, and this season's performance isn't underperformance but merely the optimum one. There is nothing that says different on his CV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Next season is his make or break season. He should have the squad to push for the top 7 and mount credible challenges in both cup competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Can't see what, mate? I've said the same as others; it's been a shit season and he's underperformed. Last season was fantastic and he overperformed. Next season should give us a better idea of where we are with him. It's not the end of the world. What if he massively overperformed last year, and this season's performance isn't underperformance but merely the optimum one. There is nothing that says different on his CV. Well, we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? I'm happy to do that. It's not as if we have a choice anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Can't see what, mate? I've said the same as others; it's been a shit season and he's underperformed. Last season was fantastic and he overperformed. Next season should give us a better idea of where we are with him. It's not the end of the world. What if he massively overperformed last year, and this season's performance isn't underperformance but merely the optimum one. There is nothing that says different on his CV. You may as well ask what if last seasons performance was the normal, and this season he's been unlucky. It's basically a nonsense question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I don't think there's going to be that much to talk about from now until the end of the season TBH, except Europe and maybe HBA's return. Certainly nothing that will change anyone's opinion of Pardew either way. So the same debate will continue to be had endlessly. Sometimes we'll win, sometimes we'll lose, like in a normal season. After a defeat the mood on here will be more negative obviously, after a win it will be bearable. Everyone is pretty much set on their opinions of the manager. When we lose it is because of Pardew and when we win it is despite him. For some people at least, and those people who still have time for Pardew are wasting their time explaining why. I know this feeling well from explaining why I still had some support for Mike Ashley. At best he is a mid table manager, he is a reactive manager not a proactive one most of the time, and when he is proactive, his negativity generally means his changes make us more defensive. With this squad, that the owner has assembled, it is criminal that we don't maximise it with a better manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Can't see what, mate? I've said the same as others; it's been a shit season and he's underperformed. Last season was fantastic and he overperformed. Next season should give us a better idea of where we are with him. It's not the end of the world. What if he massively overperformed last year, and this season's performance isn't underperformance but merely the optimum one. There is nothing that says different on his CV. You may as well ask what if last seasons performance was the normal, and this season he's been unlucky. It's basically a nonsense question. Not if you check his past performances it ain't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 When we lose it is because of Pardew and when we win it is despite him. For some people at least, and those people who still have time for Pardew are wasting their time explaining why. I know this feeling well from explaining why I still had some support for Mike Ashley. Fully agree with this. This is so deep-rooted i'm probably going to leave this thread alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I don't think there's going to be that much to talk about from now until the end of the season TBH, except Europe and maybe HBA's return. Certainly nothing that will change anyone's opinion of Pardew either way. So the same debate will continue to be had endlessly. Sometimes we'll win, sometimes we'll lose, like in a normal season. After a defeat the mood on here will be more negative obviously, after a win it will be bearable. Everyone is pretty much set on their opinions of the manager. When we lose it is because of Pardew and when we win it is despite him. For some people at least, and those people who still have time for Pardew are wasting their time explaining why. I know this feeling well from explaining why I still had some support for Mike Ashley. At best he is a mid table manager, he is a reactive manager not a proactive one most of the time, and when he is proactive, his negativity generally means his changes make us more defensive. With this squad, that the owner has assembled, it is criminal that we don't maximise it with a better manager. At best (so far) we were 5th, with a shot at 4th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 When we lose it is because of Pardew and when we win it is despite him. For some people at least, and those people who still have time for Pardew are wasting their time explaining why. I know this feeling well from explaining why I still had some support for Mike Ashley. Fully agree with this. This is so deep-rooted i'm probably going to leave this thread alone. Me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Ditto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 When we lose it is because of Pardew and when we win it is despite him. For some people at least, and those people who still have time for Pardew are wasting their time explaining why. I know this feeling well from explaining why I still had some support for Mike Ashley. Fully agree with this. This is so deep-rooted i'm probably going to leave this thread alone. Me too. exactly which is why i have given up on this thread now, thankfully the vast majority of people who go to the match don't share the views of the vocal minority on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well why don't you try and explain exactly why you "still have time for Pardew then"? How his management has won us games this season etc? I'm not exactly against him personally, it's just patently obvious that there are many managers out there who could do far more with our players than he can/has, whether or not we would be able to get them, or if the owners would even have the sense to choose the right one is a different story. P.s most people were nothing but complimentary to Pardew despite out loss to Swansea anyway, if we play like that from now on I'm sure people will warm to him pretty quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Which managers out there (and would want to manage Newcastle) are you suggesting could do more with this team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Our change in fortune has everything to do with our roster overhaul, and not some magical potion concocted by Pardew. He's still prone to the same boneheaded roster decisions (hello, Jonas) and continues to make questionable substitutions. Still not convinced he's a good manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Opinion invalid due to use of 'roster'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Would "on frame" salvage it at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Roster FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Would "on frame" salvage it at all? Why would it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 How his management has won us games this season etc? this is a fucking amazing question actually, worthy of it's own thread imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Marveaux sub against Chelsea? Gave us added forward impetus and better ball retention in midfield. Went on to win the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Marveaux sub against Chelsea? Gave us added forward impetus and better ball retention in midfield. Went on to win the game. You know full well where this will go.... " he should have started anyway" I agree btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Marveaux sub against Chelsea? Gave us added forward impetus and better ball retention in midfield. Went on to win the game. cowardly tactics let them back in the game frankly, this could be used a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Exactly. The hatred is far too ingrained now, like. There's simply no way back for him with a few on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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