Guest bimpy474 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Tottenham played as strong a team as they could throughout the Europa League, and rotated a massive amount less than we did. Why aren't they tired and why isn't AVB complaining about tiredness. Because he is a far better coach with a much more positive outlook ?. Tbh i'm sick of hearing all the excuses that come out of Pardew, when the reason were as bad as we are is him, to think otherwise is not seeing what's right in front of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Tottenham played as strong a team as they could throughout the Europa League, and rotated a massive amount less than we did. Why aren't they tired and why isn't AVB complaining about tiredness. Because he is a far better coach with a much more positive outlook ?. Tbh i'm sick of hearing all the excuses that come out of Pardew, when the reason were as bad as we are is him, to think otherwise is not seeing what's right in front of you. It's also the air of complacency and demotivation that all this negative talk creates that winds me up. Get after the fuckin players!! Demand performances! Throw some fukin teacups around!!! It's all the backwards how he carries on. All he ends up doing is soing seeds of doubt in the players before a ball has been kicked in anger. Just sick of it all. His pre and post match talks are just so bizzare there isn't even a category I can assign them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Tottenham played as strong a team as they could throughout the Europa League, and rotated a massive amount less than we did. Why aren't they tired and why isn't AVB complaining about tiredness. Because he is a far better coach with a much more positive outlook ?. Tbh i'm sick of hearing all the excuses that come out of Pardew, when the reason were as bad as we are is him, to think otherwise is not seeing what's right in front of you. It's also the air of complacency and demotivation that all this negative talk creates that winds me up. Get after the fuckin players!! Demand performances! Throw some fukin teacups around!!! It's all the backwards how he carries on. All he ends up doing is soing seeds of doubt in the players before a ball has been kicked in anger. Just sick of it all. His pre and post match talks are just so bizzare there isn't even a category I can assign them. I don't think i ever known a manager as negative as him, on the field in the way their team plays yes, but not before a game, it really is quite bizarre. And i can't see how his negativity doesn't feed through into the players and their performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 AVB has grown on me, must say. Top bloke and obviously a very good coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Tottenham played as strong a team as they could throughout the Europa League, and rotated a massive amount less than we did. Why aren't they tired and why isn't AVB complaining about tiredness. Because he is a far better coach with a much more positive outlook ?. Tbh i'm sick of hearing all the excuses that come out of Pardew, when the reason were as bad as we are is him, to think otherwise is not seeing what's right in front of you. It's also the air of complacency and demotivation that all this negative talk creates that winds me up. Get after the fuckin players!! Demand performances! Throw some fukin teacups around!!! It's all the backwards how he carries on. All he ends up doing is soing seeds of doubt in the players before a ball has been kicked in anger. Just sick of it all. His pre and post match talks are just so bizzare there isn't even a category I can assign them. he's not always negative , these are examples. "I don't care if we finish one from bottom, I really don't. If we can get over the line, our fans know we have a good group of players. When everybody is fit and we can get one or two new signings in there we are a top-ten team." "It would have been easy for them to come to West Brom and be ready to criticise us or be negative, but they weren't and that helped us. Our fans behind the goal gave us a boost before the game and their response was terrific. I really want to thank them for that." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 None of our players have played over 40 games, only 4 have played more than 30, and one of them is a goalkeeper. Meanwhile most of Chelsea's first team players are on around 45-50 games. Aye, and Benitez has been complaining about tiredness for months. January 3rd January 27th Mid Feb March April Sorry I thought we were talking about performances and results. They're third and have played in two semi finals with one still to come ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Remember this: "Reading gave us a going over today, I have no worries about them staying in this division" Derp Derp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 AVB has grown on me, must say. Top bloke and obviously a very good coach. Another pupil of Sir Bobby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 He is a frequent spouter of nonsense like. Strange thing is he never was when he first came imo. Always seemed level headed and said the right things, and last season - since the pressure has gone up this season he's really responded poorly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Remember this: "Reading gave us a going over today, I have no worries about them staying in this division" FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 67 long balls per game last season. Pretty close to what we were hittting before the new year. Course, people don't complain about it while we're winning. People did complain though. Where are these figures coming from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 He is a frequent spouter of nonsense like. Strange thing is he never was when he first came imo. Always seemed level headed and said the right things, and last season - since the pressure has gone up this season he's really responded poorly. spouted shit all his career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 He's got an ego, no question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Nowt wrong with an ego unless it isn't compounded by emotional security and intelligence. The great managers like Ferguson, Mourinho and Ancelotti have that ability to question themselves and admit when they're wrong, even if it seldom occurs. The likes of Souness and Pardew don't have that and that's where ego becomes a big problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 we still top the league of long balls # Team G TP LB LBG LB % 1 (15) Newcastle 32 12207 1969 61.5 16.1% 2 (13) Stoke City 32 10454 1673 52.3 16.0% http://www.nufcblog.org/2013/04/newcastle-united-are-still-the-biggest-long-ball-side-in-the-premiership/#.UXWGNb2cF0Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 As bad as Pardew has been this season I still cant categorise him with Souness. His man management skills were absolutely atrocious, but aye you're right in what you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 As bad as Pardew has been this season I still cant categorise him with Souness. His man management skills were absolutely atrocious. Pardew is touching cloth tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 No where near as bad. We had our own players fighting each other under Souness man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 As bad as Pardew has been this season I still cant categorise him with Souness. His man management skills were absolutely atrocious, but aye you're right in what you say. thats not saying much for Pardew to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 No where near as bad. We had our own players fighting each other under Souness man Aye, they were rucking with each but did souness ever have us this low in the league and fearing for our safety with 4 games left ? Edit Sourface also had a UEFA cup QF to deal with and an FA cup Semi final to deal with that season. His comments, two games close to each other "its what you play football for" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 we still top the league of long balls # Team G TP LB LBG LB % 1 (15) Newcastle 32 12207 1969 61.5 16.1% 2 (13) Stoke City 32 10454 1673 52.3 16.0% http://www.nufcblog.org/2013/04/newcastle-united-are-still-the-biggest-long-ball-side-in-the-premiership/#.UXWGNb2cF0Q That alone is sackable in my book. Football from the 80's. This man is a complete fraud and a cad to boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 No, but he got sacked with time to spare. We got tonked 3-0 off City, who were god awful under Stuart Pierce at the time. We were hurtling towards the bottom 3 and imo he'd have took us down. He'd also spent a fortune on players and results were terrible, albeit he did have injuries. Not a defence of Pardew by the way, but we were in utter tatters with Souness in charge, worse than now for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I've had enough of Pardew but Souness did far more damage imo. Took over a quality side, drove the quality players out, players infighting, wasted money Pardew could only dream of having and despite finishing higher than we might this season he also never got us close to what we did last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 As bad as Pardew has been this season I still cant categorise him with Souness. His man management skills were absolutely atrocious, but aye you're right in what you say. That he's even being compared to Souness is the biggest indictment of his leadership this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Souness had the advantage of dismantling a fantastic top 5 team built by one of our most beloved managers as well as unprecedented arrogance towards the fans and a huge ego. For all Pardew's silly sound bites he rarely has a go at the fans and his major failing is his tactics rather than falling out with any one who's a bit difficult to work with (or perhaps players who after playing under a manager like Bobby realised what a managerial clown Souness was). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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