Alberto2005 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Would love to see him hit another 1000 pages. Here's to him, Nufc and 12/13 season. Get this one right and he'll be loved forever by some toon fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 None of our players have played over 40 games, only 4 have played more than 30, and one of them is a goalkeeper. Meanwhile most of Chelsea's first team players are on around 45-50 games. Aye, and Benitez has been complaining about tiredness for months. January 3rd January 27th Mid Feb March April Sorry I thought we were talking about performances and results. They're third and have played in two semi finals with one still to come ffs. And spent half a billion? Sorry, again you're talking about something completely different to me. I thought we were discussing fatigue. Why are their players able to play fifty games and perform while ours can't manage thirty without apparently being completely knackered? Are you claiming they have more stamina depending on how much they cost? No, as I said Benitez was complaining about tiredness 3 months ago when there players hadn't even played 30 games. Their players are able to challenge in 4 competitions and be 3rd because they're better players. We have players that could challenge mid-table with the fatigue that comes from this many games. A broken back, dislocated shoulder or anterior cruciate and the like that have seen us without players long term aren't really brought on by tiredness though. You know what would be really funny? If Pardew got sacked, went back to selling double glazing and sorted you out with a cracking deal on some nice Everest windows. Then some kid punted a football 50 yards long and it smashed right through your newly fitted glass panes. Random. Be honest, you didn't expect Everest to be doing that today, did you? Very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The first time I can find tiredness being brought up by Pardew was 30th October, we'd played 15 games in total at that time, only 9 league games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 None of our players have played over 40 games, only 4 have played more than 30, and one of them is a goalkeeper. Meanwhile most of Chelsea's first team players are on around 45-50 games. Aye, and Benitez has been complaining about tiredness for months. January 3rd January 27th Mid Feb March April Sorry I thought we were talking about performances and results. They're third and have played in two semi finals with one still to come ffs. And spent half a billion? Sorry, again you're talking about something completely different to me. I thought we were discussing fatigue. Why are their players able to play fifty games and perform while ours can't manage thirty without apparently being completely knackered? Are you claiming they have more stamina depending on how much they cost? No, as I said Benitez was complaining about tiredness 3 months ago when there players hadn't even played 30 games. Their players are able to challenge in 4 competitions and be 3rd because they're better players. We have players that could challenge mid-table with the fatigue that comes from this many games. A broken back, dislocated shoulder or anterior cruciate and the like that have seen us without players long term aren't really brought on by tiredness though. You know what would be really funny? If Pardew got sacked, went back to selling double glazing and sorted you out with a cracking deal on some nice Everest windows. Then some kid punted a football 50 yards long and it smashed right through your newly fitted glass panes. Random. Be honest, you didn't expect Everest to be doing that today, did you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm sick to death of hearing about fatigue, tiredness etc. These are top class athletes if they can't play 2 games a week like all the top teams do then either we've bought a load of unfit players or its down to the coaching and fitness staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The tiredness crap is so tedious. How about all the Championship sides? 46 league games and 2 cups, so let's say 50 games. I'm sure they're not complaining like little bitches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm sick to death of hearing about fatigue, tiredness etc. These are top class athletes if they can't play 2 games a week like all the top teams do then either we've bought a load of unfit players or its down to the coaching and fitness staff. It's the easiest excuse to use and he uses it time and time again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Someone needs to get on to Fergie and tell him that his players are fit enough to play twice a week and his rotation policy is a waste of time. Think how many titles he'd have won if he'd just played his best eleven every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Someone needs to get on to Fergie and tell him that his players are fit enough to play twice a week and his rotation policy is a waste of time. Think how many titles he'd have won if he'd just played his best eleven every game. We've rotated our players as much as any other team. But of course Pardew has managed to convince everybody otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Someone needs to get on to Fergie and tell him that his players are fit enough to play twice a week and his rotation policy is a waste of time. Think how many titles he'd have won if he'd just played his best eleven every game. This unbelievably shit crack just completely ignores the fact that we've been utter dross all season of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Someone needs to get on to Fergie and tell him that his players are fit enough to play twice a week and his rotation policy is a waste of time. Think how many titles he'd have won if he'd just played his best eleven every game. We've rotated our players as much as any other team. But of course Pardew has managed to convince everybody otherwise. We've used more players than any other team in the league ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Someone needs to get on to Fergie and tell him that his players are fit enough to play twice a week and his rotation policy is a waste of time. Think how many titles he'd have won if he'd just played his best eleven every game. haha, actually the worst post ever made. Considering we've used more players than anybody and we're still absolutely fucking shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely fucking played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with shite after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely fucking played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with shite after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. Didn't he say after one of the Benfica games that half the players were tired after Thursday and the other half were rusty because they hadn't played on Thursday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 My point was that if a player plays twice a week, all things being equal, he's not going to be as fit coming into the next game as an opponent who has had a week's rest. Hence managers, when they can, rotate their players to keep them fresh. Some posters were dismissing the 'tiredness' claim on the grounds that these were professional athletes who could be expected to play twice a week. I was simply pointing out that it's widely recognised that potential for tiredness is a factor that the best managers have to take into account. I wasn't saying that we had rotated any more or less than any other team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Hes a complete waste of time arsehole. I keep looking and contributing to this thread but thats as simply as it boils down to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely fucking played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with shite after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. Didn't he say after one of the Benfica games that half the players were tired after Thursday and the other half were rusty because they hadn't played on Thursday? :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely f***ing played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with s**** after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. The bit in bold really does my head in, not only does he think we're so thick we'll fall for it, we're also so thick that he can tell us complete opposites and fall for it. The best one was the Mick Lowes interview after the mackem defeat, he claimed that the players were tired then when Lowes pointed out that 5 players hadn't played in Europe he said they weren't up to speed. And People like Happy Face fall for this shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely f***ing played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with s**** after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. Didn't he say after one of the Benfica games that half the players were tired after Thursday and the other half were rusty because they hadn't played on Thursday? I'm sure it was after the derby defeat, it was in the same interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 My point was that if a player plays twice a week, all things being equal, he's not going to be as fit coming into the next game as an opponent who has had a week's rest. Hence managers, when they can, rotate their players to keep them fresh. Some posters were dismissing the 'tiredness' claim on the grounds that these were professional athletes who could be expected to play twice a week. I was simply pointing out that it's widely recognised that potential for tiredness is a factor that the best managers have to take into account. I wasn't saying that we had rotated any more or less than any other team. He was moaning about tiredness in October man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely f***ing played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with s**** after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. The bit in bold really does my head in, not only does he think we're so thick we'll fall for it, we're also so thick that he can tell us complete opposites and fall for it. The best one was the Mick Lowes interview after the mackem defeat, he claimed that the players were tired then when Lowes pointed out that 5 players hadn't played in Europe he said they weren't up to speed. And People like Happy Face fall for this s****. Not only do they fall for it, they lap it up and put fucking bells on it. Truly, I never realised how easily people are deceived and manipulated before this whole affair. Quite an eye-opener. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I wish we had a manager who actually sounded like he was confident before games. Hughton was a fucker for it (Scunthorpe away: "our plan was to come here and do well" and saying "another difficult game" before basically every Championship fixture) and Pardew does it as well, fucking celebrating a point away at West Brom and being delighted at edging past some of the mid-table/relegation fodder at home by the thinnest of margins. He even said Stoke and Bolton at home would be really really tricky when we were on that immense run last year. I'm sure he's said in the past we're a big club and should be looking to win every game; this season there's been so many times we've been set up to draw or keep it tight that it's just not funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely f***ing played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with s**** after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. The bit in bold really does my head in, not only does he think we're so thick we'll fall for it, we're also so thick that he can tell us complete opposites and fall for it. The best one was the Mick Lowes interview after the mackem defeat, he claimed that the players were tired then when Lowes pointed out that 5 players hadn't played in Europe he said they weren't up to speed. And People like Happy Face fall for this shite. I heard the same interview and must admit Pardew hit a new low with me on that one ,its only when you watch this dross and here his excuses after every game and even before that you realise the utter shit he spouts and fans,pundits and reporters from outside the area take it all in but we know its pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely fucking played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with shite after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. Didn't he say after one of the Benfica games that half the players were tired after Thursday and the other half were rusty because they hadn't played on Thursday? I've no idea if that's true, but even the thought it might be says everything about Pardew's conveyor belt of bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 This is another thing about Pardew's excuses. They contradict each other. One week he uses the injury problems as an excuse, the next he uses the tiredness excuse (when said players should be fresher than anybody because they've barely fucking played). It's actually comical. The top managers like Wenger and Fergie come up with shite after matches to take the attention away from the players and place it on themselves. Pardew does it try and mask and hide is own failures and place it on anybody/anything possible. The total shyster. Didn't he say after one of the Benfica games that half the players were tired after Thursday and the other half were rusty because they hadn't played on Thursday? I've no idea if that's true, but even the thought it might be says everything about Pardew's conveyor belt of bullshit Just assume it's true, it's easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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