Stuy_O Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I've seen none of that this season. The players have seen through him and they know he's a bullshitter. He's lost them. If that's the case, I wonder when it happened. How early was it that he came out with the comment about one or two having their heads turned during the summer ? Was it pre-season ? Think these days players have to believe in the 'whole project', especially good players who can easily move to other clubs. The window was a very negative signal to the players imo as well as them probably beginning to see through what Pards has been selling them to this point. No doubt in my mind one or two were dissapointed they didn't get a move in the summer. Two things largely out of the managers control that though. If the players are playing this badly because they didn't move away in the summer then that's f***ing pathetic. However I can go with the fact they may feel aggrieved by our (or lack off) ambition in the transfer window. Sent out all the wrong signals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Losing the dressing room is one of Pardews calling cards. Happened at 3 out of 4 clubs and the only time it didn't (reportedly) happen is because he resigned. Pretty rare that it doesn't happen before any manager is sacked tbh, at any club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 They looked the worst I've ever seen them in that spell between the 2nd goal and FT like. Couldn't string a pass, every player had his head down. They looked dejected, a far cry from that united side that we saw last season. If he hasn't lost them, it's very very close. You usually see signs of dissent or players ignoring instructions when a manager loses the dressing room, I haven't seen any of it yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Losing the dressing room is one of Pardews calling cards. Happened at 3 out of 4 clubs and the only time it didn't (reportedly) happen is because he resigned. Pretty rare that it doesn't happen before any manager is sacked tbh, at any club. That's true. Looking through some of his previous club's forums makes for grim reading though. That bald nutter who owned West Ham called him "a cancer" for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Losing the dressing room is one of Pardews calling cards. Happened at 3 out of 4 clubs and the only time it didn't (reportedly) happen is because he resigned. Pretty rare that it doesn't happen before any manager is sacked tbh, at any club. That's true. Looking through some of his previous club's forums makes for grim reading though. That bald nutter who owned West Ham called him "a cancer" for example. Bit ott. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Losing the dressing room is one of Pardews calling cards. Happened at 3 out of 4 clubs and the only time it didn't (reportedly) happen is because he resigned. Pretty rare that it doesn't happen before any manager is sacked tbh, at any club. That's true. Looking through some of his previous club's forums makes for grim reading though. That bald nutter who owned West Ham called him "a cancer" for example. Wouldn't exactly trust the opinion of that fella tbh, he was an awful owner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 It seems strange though, last season we seemed to have such good team spirit, how did he lose it? Think he prolly p*ssed off Cabaye and HBA with not reinforcing the squad tbh, but still seems odd. The big dressing room figures all seem too sensible (Colo, Saylor, Shola I imagine) to create a poisonous atmosphere... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 It seems strange though, last season we seemed to have such good team spirit, how did he lose it? Think he prolly p*ssed off Cabaye and HBA with not reinforcing the squad tbh, but still seems odd. The big dressing room figures all seem too sensible (Colo, Saylor, Shola I imagine) to create a poisonous atmosphere... He also promised them proper football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He lost the team spirit because his lies are catching up with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Pardew's made me wish we never qualified for Europe. If the football wasn't hopeless, tedious and negative enough, he's completely turned what should be a real positive into a massive negative. This whole season is just shite, football was fairly fun again for 3 seasons and now I'm back to my default "ah well, I'll watch it if I must" attitude. I haven't even been to a game this season actually, going to Fulham which I'm looking forward to because I enjoy away games and it's been too long, however I doubt that the match will give me a great deal to be proud of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He lost the team spirit because his lies are catching up with him. What lies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He lost the team spirit because his lies are catching up with him. What lies? Well the lies to Cabaye and Anita etc etc that we play good football for one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He lost the team spirit because his lies are catching up with him. What lies? That he wants a progressive, passing game. As opposed to a predictable, hoof-tastic one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He lost the team spirit because his lies are catching up with him. What lies? Well the lies to Cabaye and Anita etc etc that we play good football for one You only have to look at my sig.* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 He lost the team spirit because his lies are catching up with him. What lies? Well the lies to Cabaye and Anita etc etc that we play good football for one You only have to look at my sig.* Pardpoo pls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Philippe Auclair @PhilippeAuclair Europa League mentioned as reason for NUFC's loss of form. Look at Pardew's European squads, please. Injuries, yes, Europe, no. Slowly starting to happen... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Promote Hatem to Player/Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Promote Shola to Player/Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm really starting to doubt that Pardew actually know's what the issues are with the team. I think that ship sailed a while back mate, he had his chance to progress the football over the summer and did fuck all, it was clear to see within four matches that he wasn't addressing the issues. Funnily enough I fancy him to have a go with the 4-3-3 with Ba wide over the next few weeks, if it doesn't work though I think he'll hide further in his shell and we'll get more and more defensive if we fall into a relegation fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Promote Shola to Player/Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Pardew 'won't hide from criticism' http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/11/26/newcastle-united-boss-won-t-hide-from-criticism-72703-32306037/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Pardew: My toughest time is now http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/11/26/alan-pardew-my-toughest-time-at-united-is-now-72703-32306033/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/stick-with-us-urges-newcastle-boss-alan-pardew-1-5167170 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm really starting to doubt that Pardew actually know's what the issues are with the team. I think that ship sailed a while back mate, he had his chance to progress the football over the summer and did f*** all, it was clear to see within four matches that he wasn't addressing the issues. Funnily enough I fancy him to have a go with the 4-3-3 with Ba wide over the next few weeks, if it doesn't work though I think he'll hide further in his shell and we'll get more and more defensive if we fall into a relegation fight. We are already in a relegation fight, especially looking at the fixtures up until the new year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I'm really starting to doubt that Pardew actually know's what the issues are with the team. I think that ship sailed a while back mate, he had his chance to progress the football over the summer and did f*** all, it was clear to see within four matches that he wasn't addressing the issues. Funnily enough I fancy him to have a go with the 4-3-3 with Ba wide over the next few weeks, if it doesn't work though I think he'll hide further in his shell and we'll get more and more defensive if we fall into a relegation fight. We are already in a relegation fight, especially looking at the fixtures up until the new year Aye, hard to get optimistic after looking at our fixtures until the new year. I think 6 points from those games is optimistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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