Mick Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'm sticking up for him today, he picked just about the best team possible and made the right changes. We were organised at the back and we rarely hoofed it, I could see an improvement. We're a team that has no confidence so we need to build things slowly and for the first time in weeks we've performed reasonably well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Maybe we don't carry an attacking threat because we've had one player with a history of getting goals in the side and none with a history of creating them? Just a thought, like. We had nothing man. Teams with poorer players than us play some actual attacking football. Like who? We've got nothing breaking from midfield, nothing running in beyond Cisse, nowt out wide whatsoever. We've got a horrible lack of delivery and penetration in the players between Cisse and the defence. It's farcical, absolutely farcical. I'm fairly sure they wouldn't be playing like that if they'd not all been told to sit in front of the back four. That's all those players know, to be honest. We've seen numerous games this season where Anita has shown ability to link midfield and attack. It may not be his natural position but we've seen he has the ability to do it. So why, when Perch is playing alongside him, wasn't he allowed or instructed to do so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Can only assume it was deliberate not to commit too many midfielders forward. And we ended up with a draw, so it wasn't an awful idea. FWIW we didn't hoof the ball to Cisse that much at all. But sometimes the ball is at Mike Williamson's feet and the inevitable will happen. More than 40 times. Every single one of which was lost. I counted. And I admire your love for objectivity Ian, but there's no point defending that. Turn on the TV, put whatever game from whatever championship on and you'll see better fluidity and attacking patterns. Our team is fairly determined, most of the time the players give their all, but what we play is not football. The blame is on Pardew and the staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'm sticking up for him today, he picked just about the best team possible and made the right changes. We were organised at the back and we rarely hoofed it, I could see an improvement. We're a team that has no confidence so we need to build things slowly and for the first time in weeks we've performed reasonably well. Boy I hope you're right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Went conservative with the approach, to a certain extent I think that's understandable in this game. I would have taken off Cisse and hoyed on Sammy/Ranger late on. And what difference would that had made when the lone striker had zero support? Maybe just freshen it up and give us more energy up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Can only assume it was deliberate not to commit too many midfielders forward. And we ended up with a draw, so it wasn't an awful idea. FWIW we didn't hoof the ball to Cisse that much at all. But sometimes the ball is at Mike Williamson's feet and the inevitable will happen. Completely disagree. Same, anita whacked it at him, cabaye did it too. Yup. Buckets of hoof today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Can only assume it was deliberate not to commit too many midfielders forward. And we ended up with a draw, so it wasn't an awful idea. FWIW we didn't hoof the ball to Cisse that much at all. But sometimes the ball is at Mike Williamson's feet and the inevitable will happen. More than 40 times. Every single one of which was lost. I counted. And I admire your love for objectivity Ian, but there's no point defending that. Turn on the TV, put whatever game from whatever championship on and you'll see better fluidity and attacking patterns. Our team is fairly determined, most of the times the players give their all, but what we play is not football. I'm not saying we played well, but I watched then entire game and I thought we kept it on the floor as much as we could. Obviously we restored to the long ball from time to time, but most teams do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Can only assume it was deliberate not to commit too many midfielders forward. And we ended up with a draw, so it wasn't an awful idea. FWIW we didn't hoof the ball to Cisse that much at all. But sometimes the ball is at Mike Williamson's feet and the inevitable will happen. Completely disagree. Same, anita whacked it at him, cabaye did it too. Yup. Buckets of hoof today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think it's a bit daft to expect football from this team at the moment. We need to survive first and foremost, then maybe next year we can look at coaching the side to play flowing football. Best to go with what we know for the moment, and that's sit deep and hope we get a break at the other end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Look at the fucking table man, jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think it's a bit daft to expect football from this team at the moment. We need to survive first and foremost, then maybe next year we can look at coaching the side to play flowing football. Best to go with what we know for the moment, and that's sit deep and hope we get a break at the other end. But this type of football is not what the players know. It's completely antithetical to everything the likes of Cisse, Cabaye, Marveaux and Anita have ever been taught. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The fundamentals of attacking football are simply not there. Movement is the primary reason for our general lack of threat; it is either discouraged and one player is designated to have a slight freedom (e.g. Marveaux or Ben Arfa) or we simply do not practise it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The Players will probably play better uninstructed by Pardew. We have a group of attacking players, that need to protect the back four constantly. Just have a case of the mismatched set of players under the wrong manager. Pardew tactics is suited to more direct and powerful players And our players are more suited to passing and movement football, which breaks teams down through finding space. Still hopes the board sacks him and get someone in that focus on the attributes of our key players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think it's a bit daft to expect football from this team at the moment. We need to survive first and foremost, then maybe next year we can look at coaching the side to play flowing football. Best to go with what we know for the moment, and that's sit deep and hope we get a break at the other end. But this type of football is not what the players know. It's completely antithetical to everything the likes of Cisse, Cabaye, Marveaux and Anita have ever been taught. If one of them could actually make the runs we need we might look at little bit better. The 3 of them are far too similar, and all have the same weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think it's a bit daft to expect football from this team at the moment. We need to survive first and foremost, then maybe next year we can look at coaching the side to play flowing football. Best to go with what we know for the moment, and that's sit deep and hope we get a break at the other end. But this type of football is not what the players know. It's completely antithetical to everything the likes of Cisse, Cabaye, Marveaux and Anita have ever been taught. It's what they've got used to here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Is it really too much to ask when one of our players has the ball the others support him? I get that we want to be solid but if we play like that for the rest of the season.. We will get fuck all points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Said he hopes to recruit "one or two". It had better be two! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Can only assume it was deliberate not to commit too many midfielders forward. And we ended up with a draw, so it wasn't an awful idea. FWIW we didn't hoof the ball to Cisse that much at all. But sometimes the ball is at Mike Williamson's feet and the inevitable will happen. Completely disagree. Same, anita whacked it at him, cabaye did it too. Yup. Buckets of hoof today. And I'm nearly certain that Anita has been instructed to stop playing so many short passes he hit it long to Cisse numerous times today and we all know that's not his nature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Pretty much judgement day for him next week, Colo or not, 3 points or out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 'One or two.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Look at the f***ing table man, jesus. We can move forward, at least we've stopped losing and have something to work with. I think we'll win our next 2 games as long as we can keep Coloccini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Marveaux blatantly was the one today he thought would produce "magic". Didn't do it. Obviously a Muggle. Get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Marveaux blatantly was the one today he thought would produce "magic". Didn't do it. Obviously a Muggle. Get rid. Someone should tell him that magic doesn't exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Said he hopes to recruit "one or two". It had better be two! When he says or then it's going to be the lower amount, if that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 God i hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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