alexf Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 “Certainly, Thursday and Friday we’ll be working on team shape, because our shape wasn’t right. It was a little bit loose – we can’t have that.” Gotta work on that rigid team shape eh Pards. That's the reason we lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If Europa League is a valid excuse for tiredness then in the December to end of January period we should have done much better. Fact is we won 1, drew 1 and lost 7 including a home game to the worst team in the league and dumped out of the FA cup again by Brighton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What was it about the Europa League that made him make us play long ball. What was it about the Europa League that made him play Cisse on the wing. What was it about the Europa League that made him put Shola on the wing. What was it about the Europa League that has made our set pieces are utter embarrassing joke. What was it about the Europa League that means we can't play passing football. Europa League my arse. I'm certainly not saying it's an excuse for everything he's done wrong. I'd give you tiredness but we changed so many players in the Europa games early on that he can't use that card. Even against Sunderland 5 players didn't play against Benfica. It's an EXCUSE, and poor one. An excuse for a poor manager to use. If you think the style football will improve next year you must be mad. This is his style and if as i suspect we resign AC (whom i like by the way, and can be used in a style that doesn't involve hoofball). Then it's not going to get any better, in fact it's only going to get uglier and more direct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 “Certainly, Thursday and Friday we’ll be working on team shape, because our shape wasn’t right. It was a little bit loose – we can’t have that.” Gotta work on that rigid team shape eh Pards. That's the reason we lost. the team shape which he changed at HT? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I doubt the 'style' will change, depending on what exactly you mean by style. But I think it's possible we will end up with a basically solid/conservative approach to the game peppered with outstanding moments from the likes of HBA and Cisse. If that results in an enjoyable season and a decent league finish I would be relatively happy. FWIW I've already said that I wouldn't shed any tears if Pardew was sacked, he has made a lot of mistakes. Personally I would give him another chance if we stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If he's not going to get any credit for getting to a European QF then it's mental IMO. There are plenty of actual things to slag him off about. He'll get as much credit as he deserves, he got to the Europa League quarter finals, it's not exactly a monumental achievement like. Exactly. We beat teams any competent PL team should've beaten (save Anzhi, I was surprised we topped them and doubt many English teams would). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 “Certainly, Thursday and Friday we’ll be working on team shape, because our shape wasn’t right. It was a little bit loose – we can’t have that.” Gotta work on that rigid team shape eh Pards. That's the reason we lost. Maybe he should take them swimming. Apparently that's what Di Canio done as training in preperation for the derby... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If Europa League is a valid excuse for tiredness then in the December to end of January period we should have done much better. Fact is we won 1, drew 1 and lost 7 including a home game to the worst team in the league and dumped out of the FA cup again by Brighton. OUCH !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What was it about the Europa League that made him make us play long ball. What was it about the Europa League that made him play Cisse on the wing. What was it about the Europa League that made him put Shola on the wing. What was it about the Europa League that has made our set pieces are utter embarrassing joke. What was it about the Europa League that means we can't play passing football. Europa League my arse. 100% this. It has no bearing on our tactics. Just a nice convenient excuse for Him and seemingly other fans as well Why would fans want an excuse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2013/04/16/alan-pardew-faces-backlash-after-tyne-wear-derby-61634-33179180/2/ local journos slowly starting to grow a pair of balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I doubt the 'style' will change, depending on what exactly you mean by style. But I think it's possible we will end up with a basically solid/conservative approach to the game peppered with outstanding moments from the likes of HBA and Cisse. If that results in an enjoyable season and a decent league finish I would be relatively happy. FWIW I've already said that I wouldn't shed any tears if Pardew was sacked, he has made a lot of mistakes. Personally I would give him another chance if we stay up. Everything you just said i would agree with as i love the club, and if he does stay then i hope it works out how you have described. If he stays. I just can't see it, can you really in your heart see that happening as well ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What makes this season worse is how bad the quality in the PL has been on a whole. Although a couple of sides have also overachieved. Swansea and West Brom? And Southampton, and also arguably Norwich until recently. Overachieved..? You mean like we did last season....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What was it about the Europa League that made him make us play long ball. What was it about the Europa League that made him play Cisse on the wing. What was it about the Europa League that made him put Shola on the wing. What was it about the Europa League that has made our set pieces are utter embarrassing joke. What was it about the Europa League that means we can't play passing football. Europa League my arse. 100% this. It has no bearing on our tactics. Just a nice convenient excuse for Him and seemingly other fans as well let's assume it's true, let's assume they're all fucked from europe going into the derby...what is the one thing you need to do when your players are knackered? that's right keep possession and make the other team work...equates to another pardew fail however you look at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I doubt the 'style' will change, depending on what exactly you mean by style. But I think it's possible we will end up with a basically solid/conservative approach to the game peppered with outstanding moments from the likes of HBA and Cisse. If that results in an enjoyable season and a decent league finish I would be relatively happy. FWIW I've already said that I wouldn't shed any tears if Pardew was sacked, he has made a lot of mistakes. Personally I would give him another chance if we stay up. Everything you just said i would agree with as i love the club, and if he does stay then i hope it works out how you have described. If he stays. I just can't see it, can you really in your heart see that happening as well ?. I can see us having a much, much better season than this one. Specific league position I haven't a clue. Just like this season has been a negative spiral, a positive one is also possible to create if things go right. I'm guessing we'll get the chance to find out anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I doubt the 'style' will change, depending on what exactly you mean by style. But I think it's possible we will end up with a basically solid/conservative approach to the game peppered with outstanding moments from the likes of HBA and Cisse. If that results in an enjoyable season and a decent league finish I would be relatively happy. FWIW I've already said that I wouldn't shed any tears if Pardew was sacked, he has made a lot of mistakes. Personally I would give him another chance if we stay up. Everything you just said i would agree with as i love the club, and if he does stay then i hope it works out how you have described. If he stays. I just can't see it, can you really in your heart see that happening as well ?. I can see us having a much, much better season than this one. Specific league position I haven't a clue. Just like this season has been a negative spiral, a positive one is also possible to create if things go right. I'm guessing we'll get the chance to find out anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 What makes this season worse is how bad the quality in the PL has been on a whole. Although a couple of sides have also overachieved. Swansea and West Brom? And Southampton, and also arguably Norwich until recently. Overachieved..? You mean like we did last season....? Erm, possibly, what's your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If Europa League is a valid excuse for tiredness then in the December to end of January period we should have done much better. Fact is we won 1, drew 1 and lost 7 including a home game to the worst team in the league and dumped out of the FA cup again by Brighton. And by that point (EL starts): Bigirimana 7 Perch 6 Williamson 6 Obertan 6 Anita 5 Marveaux 5 Cisse 4 Sh.Ameobi 4 Sa.Ameobi 4 Tavernier 3 Gosling 3 Krul 3 Simpson 3 Coloccini 3 Santon 3 Ferguson 3 Tiote 3 S.Taylor 3 Elliot 3 Harper 2 R.Taylor 2 Ba 1 Amalfitano 1 Vuckic 1 Cabaye 1 Ben Arfa 1 Ranger 1 Abeid 1 #tired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I doubt the 'style' will change, depending on what exactly you mean by style. But I think it's possible we will end up with a basically solid/conservative approach to the game peppered with outstanding moments from the likes of HBA and Cisse. If that results in an enjoyable season and a decent league finish I would be relatively happy. FWIW I've already said that I wouldn't shed any tears if Pardew was sacked, he has made a lot of mistakes. Personally I would give him another chance if we stay up. Everything you just said i would agree with as i love the club, and if he does stay then i hope it works out how you have described. If he stays. I just can't see it, can you really in your heart see that happening as well ?. I can see us having a much, much better season than this one. Specific league position I haven't a clue. Just like this season has been a negative spiral, a positive one is also possible to create if things go right. I'm guessing we'll get the chance to find out anyway. Totally agree, unless we go down he will start the season as manager and despite my obvious dislike of his style of football. He will have my support for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 If Europa League is a valid excuse for tiredness then in the December to end of January period we should have done much better. Fact is we won 1, drew 1 and lost 7 including a home game to the worst team in the league and dumped out of the FA cup again by Brighton. Well we improved after January because we brought in some new players and effectively had a different team. We were in a slump before that and confidence was ebbing away. I don't see why people are dismissing the tiredness issue in such an aggressive way. The team was playing its 5th game in a fortnight against a team that was playing its 3rd. We had played three days before. Any opposition in that situation will be at an advantage. That's not the only reason we lost. But it's the reason why we were unable to make use of our superior squad. Stats don't mean everything, but they do reinforce my own impression of an even game. They scored at the right times, we were unlucky in having what would probably have been a game-changing goal wrongly chalked off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Edit : that should have said the team will have my support, as they always have, whoever was manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 None of the players have any right to want out after this season, they need to suck it up and make amends for their rank performances. You may have noticed that very few of them are from the UK, let alone the NE...why should they feel any loyalty, especially if they are being asked to play in a way that doesn't use their talents properly, or offer the chance of success. Would YOU stay with a company that was run by a poor manager out of loyalty if you were offered a better job ..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Cronky you can't judge a game like that. If we had scored the goal that was wrongly called offside, Then you would have to have factored in the Mackems being given a stonewall penalty and the possible sending off of Gouffran as possibles as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I know that overall Souness has a better win % with Newcastle than Pardew does but doesn anyone know how i can get the league % only? I have tried gurlgling it but didn't see anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Cronky you can't judge a game like that. If we had scored the goal that was wrongly called offside, Then you would have to have factored in the Mackems being given a stonewall penalty and the possible sending off of Gouffran as possibles as well. Exactly. Also the 5th game in 2 weeks wasn't for the whole squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Cronky you can't judge a game like that. If we had scored the goal that was wrongly called offside, Then you would have to have factored in the Mackems being given a stonewall penalty and the possible sending off of Gouffran as possibles as well. Fair point, but the big picture is that both sides had their chances, and it could have gone either way. I just worry that if all this negativity is typical, it might get through to the players. It wasn't our day. Let's move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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