Alan Pardew

[Hanshithispantz]

If he isn't trying to deceive people then what exactly is he trying to do by directing blatant lies and/or excuses to those people? Is this an inside joke that I havn't got the memo for or something?

 

It's not just that he constantly talks shit though it's that people people actually buy his patter, comments such as "he has had his hands tied" have been used many times this season, or at least they had until a couple of weeks ago.

 

The man comes out with a new excuse every week to deflect criticism and make it appear as though he simply has an impossible task, when in reality he just isn't the right man for the job and he probably knows this.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

If he isn't trying to deceive people then what exactly is he trying to do by directing blatant lies and/or excuses to those people? Is this an inside joke that I havn't got the memo for or something?

 

It's not just that he constantly talks shit though it's that people people actually buy his patter, comments such as "he has had his hands tied" have been used many times this season, or at least they had until a couple of weeks ago.

 

The man comes out with a new excuse every week to deflect criticism and make it appear as though he simply has an impossible task, when in reality he just isn't the right man for the job and he probably knows this.

 

I know what you're saying, he does talk a fair amount of shite when under pressure. I just think the excuses and general bollocks don't go much beyond what could be expected from a manager, especially one who is performing so badly.

 

It's the expectations as well, as if other managers are straight-down-the-line with the fans and media, and everything they say is the absolute truth.

[Guest icemanblue]

If he isn't trying to deceive people then what exactly is he trying to do by directing blatant lies and/or excuses to those people? Is this an inside joke that I havn't got the memo for or something?

 

It's not just that he constantly talks shit though it's that people people actually buy his patter, comments such as "he has had his hands tied" have been used many times this season, or at least they had until a couple of weeks ago.

 

The man comes out with a new excuse every week to deflect criticism and make it appear as though he simply has an impossible task, when in reality he just isn't the right man for the job and he probably knows this.

 

I know what you're saying, he does talk a fair amount of shite when under pressure. I just think the excuses and general bollocks don't go much beyond what could be expected from a manager, especially one who is performing so badly.

 

It's the expectations as well, as if other managers are straight-down-the-line with the fans and media, and everything they say is the absolute truth.

 

Amen to that. It's easier to stomach the spin, bullshit and PR when a team is doing well. But, every single manager in the game is guilty of it. Often, they'll be praised for keeping the home truths 'in house' to protect the players etc. That doesn't make them frauds.

[Wullie]

If you can't see that Pardew talks vastly more bullshit than the average then I don't know what to say to you really.

 

Imagine Pulis trying to claim he was going to try and learn from Spain ffs.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Obviously I don't dissect the comments of other managers like people do to Pardew on here, but I have heard many, many things from football managers which I think are total nonsense. Pardew answers questions and tends to ramble on a bit, that's his weakness.

 

Anyway, it's kind of a separate issue from whether he's the man for the job or not, I just think he gets over-analysed and over-criticised over quotes. Particularly ones that are analysed as written rather than spoken, and without the question he was asked and the rest of the context.

[Guest icemanblue]

If you can't see that Pardew talks vastly more bullshit than the average then I don't know what to say to you really.

 

Imagine Pulis trying to claim he was going to try and learn from Spain ffs.

 

Like old Martin O'Neil saying he wanted Sunderland to play like Barcelona?

 

I'm relatively sure a lot of managers would have said this anyway, post Euros. Chances are they would have been directly asked about it prior to the start of the season.

[NG32]

Some guff being spouted in here...we are 5 th bottom on 37 points with a goal dif of -17. People can make all sorts of excuses for him, i did earlier in the season.  But facts are facts, our sorry arsed season could see us relegated.  If people are happy to defend him, fine but dont ignore the danger we are in.

 

 

Its just not good enough from the manager.

 

Bullshitters always get found out.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Some guff being spouted in here...we are 5 th bottom on 37 points with a goal dif of -17. People can make all sorts of excuses for him, i did earlier in the season.  But facts are facts, our sorry arsed season could see us relegated.  If people are happy to defend him, fine but dont ignore the danger we are in.

 

Its just not good enough from the manager.

 

Bullshitters always get found out.

 

Slightly pointless objection because, as I said, it was a different discussion to whether he's the man for the job. Nobody could argue his performance this season has been good enough.

[NG32]

Sorry just needed to hve a rant

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Sorry just needed to hve a rant

 

[Skeletor]

I'm just clinging to the hope that Ashley is waiting until we're mathematically safe to sack him. There'll be a black cloud looming over next season, regardless of who we sign, if he's still here as so many have lost faith in him.

[AlanSkÃrare]

I'm just clinging to the hope that Ashley is waiting until we're mathematically safe to sack him. There'll be a black cloud looming over next season, regardless of who we sign, if he's still here as so many have lost faith in him.

 

Pretty much. Can't see him turning this around due to his lack of managerial ability. As it is now, he's trying to talk himself out of it by saying he "can't talk himself out of it". It's all very sad stuff, but unfortunately it's what it has come to.

 

Like someone said. A new manager would get me so excited for next season, because we have such a good squad and structure in place. 

[Guest Roger Kint]

Alan Pardew ‏@AlanPardewNUFC 2m

 

Its not all about winning in sport, it is the taking part that counts. At #NUFC I've got us doing neither. .#TopManager

 

[Dave]

ALAN Pardew’s pleaded with Newcastle United fans to reserve judgement on the club’s season until the last ball has been kicked.

 

 

There have been calls for Pardew’s dismissal since the Tyne-Wear derby defeat.

 

And tomorrow’s visit of Liverpool is the first home fixture since that game.

 

Newcastle need three points to secure their Premier League status, and Pardew’s hopeful his 16th-placed team can claim the win they need, and also lift supporters ahead of the summer, when an inquest will be held into the campaign.

 

“We have 12 points still to play for,” Pardew told the Gazette.

 

“Some teams who have been classed as having very good seasons are just three or four points away. So until we get to the end, we can’t be judged.”

 

United’s season has been blighted by a series of injuries to key players, and Pardew feels the sheer numbers who have passed through the treatment room is a factor in the club’s underachievement.

 

Ryan Taylor is the most recent casualty, with the utility player suffering a second cruciate ligament injury as he neared his comeback from his first, suffered in August.

 

“You can’t judge everything that has gone on until the end because we have sustained some really terrible injuries,” he added.

 

The mood on Tyneside darkened in the wake of the Sunderland defeat, and Pardew knows it will be important for his team to put in a performance “worthy of a black and white shirt” against Liverpool.

 

“It’s the first game back since that game,” said Pardew.

 

“We have a chance of achieving the same home record as we had last year. We can still get 11 wins.

 

“So to give us the chance to do that we have to win. Our home form has been strong, but we all know what happened against Sunderland. We don’t need to go over that.

 

“We need to make sure it’s a really committed performance. It has to be a performance that is worthy of a black and white shirt.”

 

I'm pretty convinced it's going to be judged as 'rubbish'.

[Guest Roger Kint]

Theres still time for it to be judged as 'fucking catastrophic' Alan

[Jack Flash]

Good luck to Ian W on his general 10-4 shift tomorrow trying to defend that shit.

 

Like clockwork.

 

With regards to the interview, as always, it's just words. Whatever he comes out with, at this point, will have people foaming at the mouth. Results are the most important thing now, and three points on Saturday will be worth so much more than any soundbites from an increasingly under pressure manager.

 

It's not "just words" though is it, Derek? What he says almost always directly corresponds with what we see on the pitch. He gets his excuses in days before we've lost so he can justify himself when we do lose.

[AlanSkÃrare]

ALAN Pardew’s pleaded with Newcastle United fans to reserve judgement on the club’s season until the last ball has been kicked.

 

 

There have been calls for Pardew’s dismissal since the Tyne-Wear derby defeat.

 

And tomorrow’s visit of Liverpool is the first home fixture since that game.

 

Newcastle need three points to secure their Premier League status, and Pardew’s hopeful his 16th-placed team can claim the win they need, and also lift supporters ahead of the summer, when an inquest will be held into the campaign.

 

“We have 12 points still to play for,” Pardew told the Gazette.

 

“Some teams who have been classed as having very good seasons are just three or four points away. So until we get to the end, we can’t be judged.”

 

United’s season has been blighted by a series of injuries to key players, and Pardew feels the sheer numbers who have passed through the treatment room is a factor in the club’s underachievement.

 

Ryan Taylor is the most recent casualty, with the utility player suffering a second cruciate ligament injury as he neared his comeback from his first, suffered in August.

 

“You can’t judge everything that has gone on until the end because we have sustained some really terrible injuries,” he added.

 

The mood on Tyneside darkened in the wake of the Sunderland defeat, and Pardew knows it will be important for his team to put in a performance “worthy of a black and white shirt” against Liverpool.

 

“It’s the first game back since that game,” said Pardew.

 

“We have a chance of achieving the same home record as we had last year. We can still get 11 wins.

 

“So to give us the chance to do that we have to win. Our home form has been strong, but we all know what happened against Sunderland. We don’t need to go over that.

 

“We need to make sure it’s a really committed performance. It has to be a performance that is worthy of a black and white shirt.”

 

I'm pretty convinced it's going to be judged as 'rubbish'.

 

We've lost 17 games in the league.

We've conceded over 60 goals.

The football has been sucking life out of everyone remotely close to the games or a tv-screen showing it.

 

It won't change in four games.

[Guest hobshobs]

ALAN Pardew’s pleaded with Newcastle United fans to reserve judgement on the club’s season until the last ball has been kicked.

 

 

There have been calls for Pardew’s dismissal since the Tyne-Wear derby defeat.

 

And tomorrow’s visit of Liverpool is the first home fixture since that game.

 

Newcastle need three points to secure their Premier League status, and Pardew’s hopeful his 16th-placed team can claim the win they need, and also lift supporters ahead of the summer, when an inquest will be held into the campaign.

 

“We have 12 points still to play for,” Pardew told the Gazette.

 

“Some teams who have been classed as having very good seasons are just three or four points away. So until we get to the end, we can’t be judged.”

 

United’s season has been blighted by a series of injuries to key players, and Pardew feels the sheer numbers who have passed through the treatment room is a factor in the club’s underachievement.

 

Ryan Taylor is the most recent casualty, with the utility player suffering a second cruciate ligament injury as he neared his comeback from his first, suffered in August.

 

“You can’t judge everything that has gone on until the end because we have sustained some really terrible injuries,” he added.

 

The mood on Tyneside darkened in the wake of the Sunderland defeat, and Pardew knows it will be important for his team to put in a performance “worthy of a black and white shirt” against Liverpool.

 

“It’s the first game back since that game,” said Pardew.

 

“We have a chance of achieving the same home record as we had last year. We can still get 11 wins.

 

“So to give us the chance to do that we have to win. Our home form has been strong, but we all know what happened against Sunderland. We don’t need to go over that.

 

“We need to make sure it’s a really committed performance. It has to be a performance that is worthy of a black and white shirt.”

 

I'm pretty convinced it's going to be judged as 'rubbish'.

 

We've lost 17 games in the league.

We've conceded over 60 goals.

The football has been sucking life out of everyone remotely close to the games or a tv-screen showing it.

 

It won't change in four games.

 

Even if it does and we win all four games 3-0 I don't care. OK we'll stay up but I certainly won't be looking forward to next season with him in charge. I can't even be bothered reading the programme, The Mag, True Faith, watching Match Of The Day and so on. The tactics, substitutions, comments are not even in the league of a Sunday pub team manager.

[Guest neesy111]

Sounds like he's be warned about what happened under Robson v Wolves & Roeder v City.

[Guest icemanblue]

Good luck to Ian W on his general 10-4 shift tomorrow trying to defend that shit.

 

Like clockwork.

 

With regards to the interview, as always, it's just words. Whatever he comes out with, at this point, will have people foaming at the mouth. Results are the most important thing now, and three points on Saturday will be worth so much more than any soundbites from an increasingly under pressure manager.

 

It's not "just words" though is it, Derek? What he says almost always directly corresponds with what we see on the pitch. He gets his excuses in days before we've lost so he can justify himself when we do lose.

 

I'm Inochi. That was posted at 08.53am. You must have shit clocks.

 

And, yes, it is exactly just that - words. Spin, PR, bullshit or downright lies are always just words.

[Guest neesy111]

Can everyone just chill please.

[Jack Flash]

Good luck to Ian W on his general 10-4 shift tomorrow trying to defend that shit.

 

Like clockwork.

 

With regards to the interview, as always, it's just words. Whatever he comes out with, at this point, will have people foaming at the mouth. Results are the most important thing now, and three points on Saturday will be worth so much more than any soundbites from an increasingly under pressure manager.

 

It's not "just words" though is it, Derek? What he says almost always directly corresponds with what we see on the pitch. He gets his excuses in days before we've lost so he can justify himself when we do lose.

 

I'm Inochi. That was posted at 08.53am. You must have shit clocks.

 

And, yes, it is exactly just that - words. Spin, PR, bullshit or downright lies are always just words.

 

The top bit obviously wasn't aimed at you as it says Ian W.

 

Words are just words until they perfectly foreshadow what comes after. Consistently.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

Good luck to Ian W on his general 10-4 shift tomorrow trying to defend that shit.

 

 

Fuck off.

[Guest neesy111]

 

Good luck to Ian W on his general 10-4 shift tomorrow trying to defend that shit.

 

 

Fuck off.

 

 

IP has started to become a twat in this thread.

[Disco]

This whole thread is a complete car crash. Personal insults/WUMing > debate.