Yorkie Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. Well he is. I wouldn't be confident of a clean sheet even of both of them played at the same time. We shouldn't be too harsh with Harper tbh. Long time since he last played in a full strength team. He's not done any real errors of late I can remember either. I can't recall any howlers from Harper tbh, not recently anyway. There was Kenny Miller's goal for Derby which was a bit of a stinker, and obviously Xabi Alonso. It's not that, though. He's just not a good goalkeeper any more. He's too slow at doing anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. What we need is a solid back up keeper. Someone like that big young lad from Celtic.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. Why, do the other ten players forget what to do or something? Hardly a daft thing to say we'd drop a hell of a lot more points without Krul. He's better at saving shots, it's as simple as that. Of course he is, but we wouldn't 'drop like a stone'. Ridiculous thing to say. Depends on your definition, I meant we wouldn't finish anywhere near as high as last season, imo. That's based on a long term injury obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. Harper is finally full fit and has been told to start acting like a professional footballer. He's our no 2 and has been told to behave like one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrew Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. Well he is. I wouldn't be confident of a clean sheet even of both of them played at the same time. We shouldn't be too harsh with Harper tbh. Long time since he last played in a full strength team. He's not done any real errors of late I can remember either. I can't recall any howlers from Harper tbh, not recently anyway. There was Kenny Miller's goal for Derby which was a bit of a stinker, and obviously Xabi Alonso. It's not that, though. He's just not a good goalkeeper any more. He's too slow at doing anything. Yes in general he has been reliable but i do remember the season before last when stoke thumped us at the Britannia he was awful, responsible for nearly all their goals i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. What we need is a solid back up keeper. Someone like that big young lad from Celtic.... Tbf that big young lad at Celtic has played his best football against opposition at a similar level to what the 'hopeless' Elliot looked good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. Harper is finally full fit and has been told to start acting like a professional footballer. He's our no 2 and has been told to behave like one. That is amazingly harsh considering he has done that job brilliantly for a decade or more. He deserves more credit imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. I understand the worry as Harper is nowhere near the quality of Krul anymore but most Premiership fans would have the same worries if their 1st choice keeper got injured. Look at the shear panic after Reina got sent off against us last season. Its very difficult to have two top quality keepers we were very lucky Harper was happy to be Given's understudy for so long. It would be a big blow if Krul got crocked but I don't think we'd capitulate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Aye it was ball-achingly clear he was done as a PL keeper in our first season back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. Why, do the other ten players forget what to do or something? Hardly a daft thing to say we'd drop a hell of a lot more points without Krul. He's better at saving shots, it's as simple as that. Of course he is, but we wouldn't 'drop like a stone'. Ridiculous thing to say. Depends on your definition, I meant we wouldn't finish anywhere near as night as last season, imo. That's based on a long term injury obviously. We might not even if he stays fit all year, so it's impossible to tell. Last year pretty much everyone exceeded expectations. When Carroll left everyone thought we'd drop like a stone and we didn't. When Taylor was crocked everyone thought we'd drop like a stone and we didn't. When Colo was ruled out against Spurs everyone was slitting their wrists but we won. We have a very good team, no single player makes such a big difference IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. Harper is finally full fit and has been told to start acting like a professional footballer. He's our no 2 and has been told to behave like one. That is amazingly harsh considering he has done that job brilliantly for a decade or more. He deserves more credit imo. Last year he wasn't really interested and pretty much refused to travel away, this has now been sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. What we need is a solid back up keeper. Someone like that big young lad from Celtic.... Tbf that big young lad at Celtic has played his best football against opposition at a similar level to what the 'hopeless' Elliot looked good at. It's okay to call players shit, Jon. Nice how you've always got everyone's back though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. Why, do the other ten players forget what to do or something? Hardly a daft thing to say we'd drop a hell of a lot more points without Krul. He's better at saving shots, it's as simple as that. Of course he is, but we wouldn't 'drop like a stone'. Ridiculous thing to say. Depends on your definition, I meant we wouldn't finish anywhere near as night as last season, imo. That's based on a long term injury obviously. We might not even if he stays fit all year, so it's impossible to tell. Last year pretty much everyone exceeded expectations. When Carroll left everyone thought we'd drop like a stone and we didn't. When Taylor was crocked everyone thought we'd drop like a stone and we didn't. When Colo was ruled out against Spurs everyone was slitting their wrists but we won. We have a very good team, no single player makes such a big difference IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 £80m ffs. Fair play my arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The way collapses in three stages when diving doesn't exactly inspire confidence though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. I understand the worry as Harper is nowhere near the quality of Krul anymore but most Premiership fans would have the same worries if their 1st choice keeper got injured. Look at the shear panic after Reina got sent off against us last season. Its very difficult to have two top quality keepers we were very lucky Harper was happy to be Given's understudy for so long. It would be a big blow if Krul got crocked but I don't think we'd capitulate. I can accept it was an exaggeration, purely pulling a figure out of my arse I reckon we'd be 8-10 points worse off with Harper instead of Krul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Lads man, stop talking about Krul getting knacked and lets just enjoy him in the team. Hoping Anita does well today, the midfield are gonna have to be on form for us to get a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I thought bertrand was a lb not lw He is really but RDM played him there in Champions League final, seemingly against very good sides too. Us being one now Maybe they're worried about 50 watt head coming off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. Harper is finally full fit and has been told to start acting like a professional footballer. He's our no 2 and has been told to behave like one. That is amazingly harsh considering he has done that job brilliantly for a decade or more. He deserves more credit imo. Last year he wasn't really interested and pretty much refused to travel away, this has now been sorted. No offence but you are talking bollocks. Pardew spoke of that, he told Harps that he wanted Eliott on the bench to give him experience of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Looks like Bertrand is in the team to double up on Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Looks like Bertrand is in the team to double up on Ben Arfa. Shouldn't have to worry. He won't be in the game in a 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. Why, do the other ten players forget what to do or something? Hardly a daft thing to say we'd drop a hell of a lot more points without Krul. He's better at saving shots, it's as simple as that. Of course he is, but we wouldn't 'drop like a stone'. Ridiculous thing to say. Depends on your definition, I meant we wouldn't finish anywhere near as night as last season, imo. That's based on a long term injury obviously. We might not even if he stays fit all year, so it's impossible to tell. Last year pretty much everyone exceeded expectations. When Carroll left everyone thought we'd drop like a stone and we didn't. When Taylor was crocked everyone thought we'd drop like a stone and we didn't. When Colo was ruled out against Spurs everyone was slitting their wrists but we won. We have a very good team, no single player makes such a big difference IMO. I see where you're coming from, I'm not convinced though, I think the difference a good keeper makes over an average one is considerable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Harper getting the gig for away games now, then. Elliot really must be absolutely awful. It's a concern like, an injury to Krul and we'd drop like a stone. What we need is a solid back up keeper. Someone like that big young lad from Celtic.... Tbf that big young lad at Celtic has played his best football against opposition at a similar level to what the 'hopeless' Elliot looked good at. It's okay to call players shit, Jon. Nice how you've always got everyone's back though. It's really easy to as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 What we need is a solid back up keeper. Someone like that big young lad from Celtic.... That would be Forster, the man who didn't want to stay unless he was first choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 You'd struggle to find many better number 2s than Harper in this league IMO. Good keepers don't want to come warm the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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