STM Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Everton is the last place we want to be risking flair formations though. Will end up being: Krul Simp/Anita Taylor Coloccini Santon Cabaye Tiote HBA Jonas Ba Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Why is everyone leaving Jonas out? Still ahead of Bigi ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Want to see this: Krul Perch Taylor Coloccini Santon Tiote Anita Cabaye Ben Arfa Ba Cisse Think we'll start with 4-4-2 again though, go 2 goals down, change it and pull a goal back but then concede again while pushing for the equaliser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 draw. Depressingly poor so far, can't see huge changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Both sides go into the 2 week break on the back of a disappointing result, so that could somewhat level any perceived difference. If I were Moyes, I'd be telling Fellaini to get very close to Tiote and pressure him. Thought for a long time Tiote is overrated and his passing is generally crap. A good player yes but not as good as made out in the media. I'd also be wanting Baines and Pienaar to give Simpson the run around though that might be different if Anita plays there. Interesting where Ben Arfa plays too. Although we've got a reputation for being solid defensively, you might notice our 3 goals conceded so far have all been really soft. The first was a goalkeeping error, and the 2 vs West Brom were disturbingly easy for them. I'd expect you to play better than you have done so far, and from our side if we repeat our WBA performance I'd not be confident of winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Both sides go into the 2 week break on the back of a disappointing result, so that could somewhat level any perceived difference. If I were Moyes, I'd be telling Fellaini to get very close to Tiote and pressure him. Thought for a long time Tiote is overrated and his passing is generally crap. A good player yes but not as good as made out in the media. I'd also be wanting Baines and Pienaar to give Simpson the run around though that might be different if Anita plays there. Interesting where Ben Arfa plays too. Although we've got a reputation for being solid defensively, you might notice our 3 goals conceded so far have all been really soft. The first was a goalkeeping error, and the 2 vs West Brom were disturbingly easy for them. I'd expect you to play better than you have done so far, and from our side if we repeat our WBA performance I'd not be confident of winning. Pessimism all-round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Both sides go into the 2 week break on the back of a disappointing result, so that could somewhat level any perceived difference. If I were Moyes, I'd be telling Fellaini to get very close to Tiote and pressure him. Thought for a long time Tiote is overrated and his passing is generally crap. A good player yes but not as good as made out in the media. I'd also be wanting Baines and Pienaar to give Simpson the run around though that might be different if Anita plays there. Interesting where Ben Arfa plays too. Although we've got a reputation for being solid defensively, you might notice our 3 goals conceded so far have all been really soft. The first was a goalkeeping error, and the 2 vs West Brom were disturbingly easy for them. I'd expect you to play better than you have done so far, and from our side if we repeat our WBA performance I'd not be confident of winning. Pessimism all-round. Well, I'm optimistic about this season. Just trying to balance some of the comments whereby you'd think this game was a write-off for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Both sides go into the 2 week break on the back of a disappointing result, though, so that could somewhat level any perceived difference. If I were Moyes, I'd be telling Fellaini to get very close to Tiote and pressure him. Thought for a long time Tiote is overrated and his passing is generally crap. A good player yes but not as good as made out in the media. I'd also be wanting Baines and Pienaar to give Simpson the run around though that might be different if Anita plays there. Interesting where Ben Arfa plays too. Although we've got a reputation for being solid defensively, you might notice our 3 goals conceded so far have all been really soft. The first was a goalkeeping error, and the 2 vs West Brom were disturbingly easy for them. I'd expect you to play better than you have done so far, and from our side if we repeat our WBA performance I'd not be confident of winning. These are the types of games that Tiote thrives in, and his passing only appears to be crap because often at times at home he's the one taking responsibility and trying to make things happen when others around him aren't doing anything, which we all know isn't his game. Away games when we're under more pressure, when we're trying to get a result is when he shines, winning the ball back, keeping possession ticking over. So you're totally wrong tbh. If I were you I'd hope he's out injured. Was the game two years ago Tiote's first start for us? I remember him being absolutely fantastic in that game, and I have no doubt that he will be if he's fully fit for this one too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Both sides go into the 2 week break on the back of a disappointing result, though, so that could somewhat level any perceived difference. If I were Moyes, I'd be telling Fellaini to get very close to Tiote and pressure him. Thought for a long time Tiote is overrated and his passing is generally crap. A good player yes but not as good as made out in the media. I'd also be wanting Baines and Pienaar to give Simpson the run around though that might be different if Anita plays there. Interesting where Ben Arfa plays too. Although we've got a reputation for being solid defensively, you might notice our 3 goals conceded so far have all been really soft. The first was a goalkeeping error, and the 2 vs West Brom were disturbingly easy for them. I'd expect you to play better than you have done so far, and from our side if we repeat our WBA performance I'd not be confident of winning. These are the types of games that Tiote thrives in, and his passing only appears to be crap because often at times at home he's the one taking responsibility and trying to make things happen when others around him aren't doing anything, which we all know isn't his game. Away games when we're under more pressure, when we're trying to get a result is when he shines, winning the ball back, keeping possession ticking over. So you're totally wrong tbh. If I were you I'd hope he's out injured. Was the game two years ago Tiote's first start for us? I remember him being absolutely fantastic in that game, and I have no doubt that he will be if he's fully fit for this one too. Tiote had a 100% passing rate in that Everton game too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'll be in f***ing England. Cold, wet England. Eh, been a lovely couple of days like. Aye. Shame about Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday last week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'll be in f***ing England. Cold, wet England. Eh, been a lovely couple of days like. Aye. Shame about Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday last week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Tiote's debut v Everton was awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Both sides go into the 2 week break on the back of a disappointing result, though, so that could somewhat level any perceived difference. If I were Moyes, I'd be telling Fellaini to get very close to Tiote and pressure him. Thought for a long time Tiote is overrated and his passing is generally crap. A good player yes but not as good as made out in the media. I'd also be wanting Baines and Pienaar to give Simpson the run around though that might be different if Anita plays there. Interesting where Ben Arfa plays too. Although we've got a reputation for being solid defensively, you might notice our 3 goals conceded so far have all been really soft. The first was a goalkeeping error, and the 2 vs West Brom were disturbingly easy for them. I'd expect you to play better than you have done so far, and from our side if we repeat our WBA performance I'd not be confident of winning. These are the types of games that Tiote thrives in, and his passing only appears to be crap because often at times at home he's the one taking responsibility and trying to make things happen when others around him aren't doing anything, which we all know isn't his game. Away games when we're under more pressure, when we're trying to get a result is when he shines, winning the ball back, keeping possession ticking over. So you're totally wrong tbh. If I were you I'd hope he's out injured. Was the game two years ago Tiote's first start for us? I remember him being absolutely fantastic in that game, and I have no doubt that he will be if he's fully fit for this one too. He impressed me a lot too in that game but whenever I've seen him recently he's looked half the player. But there you go. I'd rather he was out injured - as I've just said he's a good player. But not as good as is made out. Regardless, I'll trust your view. He could turn up and run the game and I'll be left with egg on my face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 People are forgetting that Tiote generally plays shit for a few games if he's been out injured, before he then starts to play like we know he can again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I know where you're coming from Neil, you've said the same about Cabaye as well which I tend to agree with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Both sides go into the 2 week break on the back of a disappointing result, though, so that could somewhat level any perceived difference. If I were Moyes, I'd be telling Fellaini to get very close to Tiote and pressure him. Thought for a long time Tiote is overrated and his passing is generally crap. A good player yes but not as good as made out in the media. I'd also be wanting Baines and Pienaar to give Simpson the run around though that might be different if Anita plays there. Interesting where Ben Arfa plays too. Although we've got a reputation for being solid defensively, you might notice our 3 goals conceded so far have all been really soft. The first was a goalkeeping error, and the 2 vs West Brom were disturbingly easy for them. I'd expect you to play better than you have done so far, and from our side if we repeat our WBA performance I'd not be confident of winning. These are the types of games that Tiote thrives in, and his passing only appears to be crap because often at times at home he's the one taking responsibility and trying to make things happen when others around him aren't doing anything, which we all know isn't his game. Away games when we're under more pressure, when we're trying to get a result is when he shines, winning the ball back, keeping possession ticking over. So you're totally wrong tbh. If I were you I'd hope he's out injured. Was the game two years ago Tiote's first start for us? I remember him being absolutely fantastic in that game, and I have no doubt that he will be if he's fully fit for this one too. He impressed me a lot too in that game but whenever I've seen him recently he's looked half the player. But there you go. I'd rather he was out injured - as I've just said he's a good player. But not as good as is made out. Regardless, I'll trust your view. He could turn up and run the game and I'll be left with egg on my face. Fuck you. Tiote is the king man. Blates gonna score a piledriver against you that bursts through the net hits you in the face behind the goal. Ben Arfa on Bent-stylee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 -----------------Krul Anita-----Tayls-------Colo------Sant -----Cabaye----Tiote------Jonas ----------------Benny ------Cisse----------------Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 We're often poor after a international break and i don't expect this to be any different. We'll need 5 in midfield for this one or they'll waltz right through us with consumate f**king ease. If we play 5 in the midfield we could choke this game and catch them on the break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Not confident at all for this one, think we'll lose and lose poorly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Everton is the last place we want to be risking flair formations though. Never understood this, it's not just better for flair it's also better results it's not like we are all out attack and shat defensively using 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 tbh. Anyway very pessimistic about this game probably a narrow defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 lose by 2 or 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Think we'll get a draw or win from this. Expecting to see a big improvement from Ba, Cisse and Cabaye. Think Cisse will nick one with HBA cutting in and scoring with a diagonal across the face of goal. Let's go with 2-1 newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I think they'll absolutely destroy us tbh. An Everton playing well at the start of the season is a scary thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 3-0 a reality check for us and Pardew that our midfield is completely wrong tactically. Felliani will run the show. No shame in losing to Everton though, I think they will finish 4th this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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