Sifu Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Looks like this is another Europa League game I'm going to miss due to work How late are you working, fella! Depends on what kind of day I'm having, if it's a terrible one then I don't finish work until half 7. Guess I can still catch the second half though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 He'll start on the side Obertan should be starting on, the left. Don't really see what he's ever offered other than the comedic factor of being Shola's brother. Have no problem with him being on the bench, just don't think he's done anything to deserve a place unlike Tav, Ferguson and Bigi have done in their showings so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 He's been hurt pretty much all season, he hasn't had the chance. If Pardew says he's deserved it through training who are we to dispute that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I prefer showings on the pitch to what's done in training. Shola's meant to be great in training, does that mean he should start ahead of Ba in the PL? no. I really want us to give this comp a go and am fine with bringing youngsters through just don't feel he deserves the start ahead of Obertan who has earnt a place through his last game in Europe. Sammy should be brought on from the bench and prove he's worth a start for the next game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Sammy hasn't had a chance this season though to show what he's got. Also Tavernier has been very raw and inconsistent apart from his showing against Man Utd. There's no comedic factor about him being Shola's brother as far as I'm concerned, he offers pace, trickery and directness in the final third. Something which we've been lacking this season apart from Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yes, a chance to prove himself from the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 You're talking shite like. Has he even played a combined 90 minutes this season? How can you say he hasn't earned a chance with his previous displays? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Because they were last season and there are players ahead of him in the pecking order, I don't see how it's talking shit wanting players who've worked for a place to start. He's done just as much as Marveaux if not less this season yet no one has a problem with him not starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Had Bigi and Tavernier earned their chance when they were thrown in to start their first games this season? Very contradictory argument tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Had Bigi and Tavernier earned their chance when they were thrown in to start their first games this season? Very contradictory argument tbh. Same with Ferguson too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Think Martin Hardy in The Independent may have nailed the probable team, save for maybe Harper coming in for Krul: (4-4-2) Krul; Anita, S Taylor, Perch, Ferguson; Obertan, Bigirimana, Tioté, Sammy Ameobi; Shola Ameobi, Cissé. Looks really good on paper to me, but I'd prefer to see the same sort of shape we lined up against Bordeaux with. Wonder if Pardew has designs on Sammy playing in behind Shola with Cisse and Obertan wide. Would be extremely attacking and direct, which sounds good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Probably not but they've proven otherwise in substitute appearance's. I don't see what's wrong with wanting a youngster who's returning from injury to be on the bench and start a player who deserves their start and is fully fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Aye I think he's got it right too there or there abouts. I'd prefer to stick with a front 3 though personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Think Martin Hardy in The Independent may have nailed the probable team, save for maybe Harper coming in for Krul: (4-4-2) Krul; Anita, S Taylor, Perch, Ferguson; Obertan, Bigirimana, Tioté, Sammy Ameobi; Shola Ameobi, Cissé. Looks really good on paper to me, but I'd prefer to see the same sort of shape we lined up against Bordeaux with. Wonder if Pardew has designs on Sammy playing in behind Shola with Cisse and Obertan wide. Would be extremely attacking and direct, which sounds good to me. I'd worry about Bigi & Tiote's lack of creativity, especially when they're surrounded by bulbhead and an inexperienced youngster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Bigi will sort the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Sammy definitely deserves a start. Was our best player in pre-season. Got an injury and is now class on training. I also think he's got a hell of a lot to his game. Huge prospect when you compare him to obertan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperShola! Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Need some hot, tasty Xisco action like. Man in form, and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Need some hot, tasty Xisco action like. Man in form, and all that. Put Parspew has already said he won't feature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Would love to see Sammy start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Harper Tavernier Taylor Perch Ferguson Anita Tiote Bigi Obertan Cisse Sameobi Subs: Elliott ,Marveaux Shola Amalifitano Santon Willo Campbell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Harper Tavernier Taylor Perch Ferguson Anita Tiote Bigi Obertan Cisse Sameobi Subs: Elliott ,Marveaux Shola Amalifitano Santon Willo Campbell I'll like to see that. Would also like to see both amalifitano and marveaux get some time on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think we'll see 4-4-2 if Sammy is to start. Would have thought Shola will get a chance after being HAULED OFF #9-1 #FTM on Sunday. As will Cisse, both scored last round as well. Obertan will clearly get a start as he also played quite well against Bordeaux and Pards seems to rate him higher than most (everyone). Shame if that's the case. As I thought Obertan looked much better on the left, especially when we were playing with a front 3. Him and Sammy can switch flanks I suppose, but we don't seem particularly fluid with our formations. Would also presumably mean Bigi wouldn't start, as Tiote is playing and surely Anita will get a start. Massive load of assumptions in this post hope I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Probably not but they've proven otherwise in substitute appearance's. I don't see what's wrong with wanting a youngster who's returning from injury to be on the bench and start a player who deserves their start and is fully fit. I understand your viewpoint a bit better now but I still don't agree with it tbh. What you're saying devalues the performances players will put into training in favour of a substitute, almost gestural, appearance to get one player ahead of another in the pecking order. As for returning from injury, if he is match fit, he is match fit. If Sameobi is outperforming Marv in training for a whole week, he can jump ahead of him without having to put in a fifteen cameo in front of SJP first. Equally, he shouldn't be stopped by Marv putting in an unrepresentative decent fifteen minute spell when he's been garbage all week! Meritocracy is the way to go. From your initial post, it seems like you're misdirecting residue anger from King Shola tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Where's the best place to park lads? Been ages since my last visit, when I just went into some random underground car park not too far from the ground. what time are you arriving? All council car parks are free after 5. Just stick it in the Civic Centre one. S'what I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Bruges fans queuing for the the Black Garter apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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