Dave Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Seriously though, I know ambition is nil, previous transfer windows have been wank and all that but we simply HAVE to make several first team signings this summer or we'll be in really deep shit next season. Pardew's not even close to good enough to manage without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Ney chance he signs for us permanent is there? We just won't pay Think the bigger issue is as linked clubs like Arsenal will come in and even if we were ambitious we still wouldn't get him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Bit depressing when your best attacker doesn't belong to the club and it looks iffy whether he ever will. I know this is controversial and some might not like to hear it, but if we'd shown some ambition to build on a decent first half of the season then the likes of Remy might well be more interested in staying for next season. Rocket science! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 If we have arranged a fee already he will sign, if not we probably wont but despite how prolific he has been I am not sure a top side will pick him up. Look at the strikers top clubs have spent big money on yet Ba scored a fuck load of goals for us as a centre forward, was signed for around £7m yet has hardly started a game for Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Bit depressing when your best attacker doesn't belong to the club and it looks iffy whether he ever will. I know this is controversial and some might not like to hear it, but if we'd shown some ambition to build on a decent first half of the season then the likes of Remy might well be more interested in staying for next season. Rocket science! Don't be daft. You haven't even considered science there. Edit: Ah shit, you considered rocket science, fair do's. Nah, you're right - any player that believes in their own talent wants to feel like they're at a club that is going places. Now we've made it explicitly clear that we're happy to plod along we will encounter this problem more and more. Imagine being a player and hearing your manager saying "Thank God we're not in Europe". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Bit depressing when your best attacker doesn't belong to the club and it looks iffy whether he ever will. I know this is controversial and some might not like to hear it, but if we'd shown some ambition to build on a decent first half of the season then the likes of Remy might well be more interested in staying for next season. Rocket science! Yep, I completely believe that. I've said it about a million times now, but with the way this season was set up (and subsequently played out), it represented an absolutely massive opportunity for three particular teams to pull up some trees. Us, Spurs and Everton. Two of them have attempted to do that and could still do something very decent this year (although the top 4 do appear to have pulled away now, admittedly). We haven't attempted to do anything and we've faltered to an immovable mid-table position. Doesn't stretch as far as this league campaign either. The FA Cup draw has fallen really well for lower teams, with many of the better sides having to face each other. It's as winnable as it's ever been this year. Then there's next season. The opportunity in January that we missed was also huge with regards to long-term structure. We were on great form up to Christmas, had a terrific foundation of points... if we'd strengthened, we'd have made a go of the top 6, possibly given Cabaye something to consider, had more of a chance of keeping Remy, and put the squad in a great position for the next campaign - with two or three quality additions already integrated before August. This whole season has been one long massive opportunity and we haven't been remotely bothered. There is one target and that is to survive. Anything else means absolutely fuck all apart from one other bullet point: avoid EL at all costs. Meh. Don't know why I bothered even typing that. The board don't care about actual football so nothing exciting was ever going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Help who? None of that lot are creators, with or without movement. Movement is creation in the hands of the right manager. Our movement is usually erratic and into the wrong spaces, i.e, cutting inside instead of getting beyond the full backs or getting Ben Arfa to track back rather than attack their bastard defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Loved that finish and celebration, after watching the DVR of the match. Even if he's a total mercenary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Help who? None of that lot are creators, with or without movement. Movement is creation in the hands of the right manager. Our movement is usually erratic and into the wrong spaces, i.e, cutting inside instead of getting beyond the full backs or getting Ben Arfa to track back rather than attack their bastard defenders. Cool story. The fact our corners were (perhaps rightly) being taken by our rookie local lad LB tells it's own tale, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Cabaye went and up stepped Santon, then Dummett. Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I would love to see Remy sign permanently, but it's not gonna happen. He wants (and will get probably) CL football and we won't stump up what's required anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Current top scorers: Luis Suarez 23 Daniel Sturridge 18 Sergio Agüero 15 Yaya Touré 13 Olivier Giroud 12 Eden Hazard 12 Loïc Remy 12 He's in some pretty decent company there, despite playing for a shitter team than the rest of them and missing quite a few games - someone is almost certain to offer him a lot more money than us I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 We need to keep him or we're f***ed for goals next season. Last season showed if that spine doesn't play well. We are royally f'd. Krul-Colo-Tiote-Cabaye-Star srtriker Last year only Krul & Cabaye had decent seasons and we struggled very badly. Without Ba we would've been relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 We need to keep him or we're f***ed for goals next season. Last season showed if that spine doesn't play well. We are royally f'd. Krul-Colo-Tiote-Cabaye-Star srtriker Last year only Krul & Cabaye had decent seasons and we struggled very badly. Without Ba we would've been relegated. Cabaye was not decent last year, like. He was just as shite as the rest, had a few standout games after he came out about his depression then went back into his shell again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 We need to keep him or we're f***ed for goals next season. Last season showed if that spine doesn't play well. We are royally f'd. Krul-Colo-Tiote-Cabaye-Star srtriker Last year only Krul & Cabaye had decent seasons and we struggled very badly. Without Ba we would've been relegated. Cabaye was not decent last year, like. He was just as s**** as the rest, had a few standout games after he came out about his depression then went back into his shell again. Before his injury I thought he was pretty decent. He also scored some important goals that earned us points (Liverpool, Sunderland). He looked below par for about 2/3 games prior to his injury/surgery but he started the season well enough. He also came back and won us some more points straight away with some good performances. On here, you're either shit or brilliant. Very little middle ground. Thought Krul was okay & Cabaye were okay. Colo, Tiote & Cisse where consistently poor for large parts of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 We need to keep him or we're f***ed for goals next season. Last season showed if that spine doesn't play well. We are royally f'd. Krul-Colo-Tiote-Cabaye-Star srtriker Last year only Krul & Cabaye had decent seasons and we struggled very badly. Without Ba we would've been relegated. Cabaye was not decent last year, like. He was just as shite as the rest, had a few standout games after he came out about his depression then went back into his shell again. Tell you what he definitely was, a drama queen who needed to be centre of attention all the time (along with being a fantastic player). It'll be interesting at PSG because he wont get that type of fawning there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Loved that finish and celebration, after watching the DVR of the match. Even if he's a total mercenary I agree I think he showed a lot of passion ..... it was a good sign but still don;t think he will come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 We need to keep him or we're f***ed for goals next season. Last season showed if that spine doesn't play well. We are royally f'd. Krul-Colo-Tiote-Cabaye-Star srtriker Last year only Krul & Cabaye had decent seasons and we struggled very badly. Without Ba we would've been relegated. Cabaye was not decent last year, like. He was just as s**** as the rest, had a few standout games after he came out about his depression then went back into his shell again. Our W/D/L stats with and without Cabaye tell a different story like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 He missed that 11 in 13 games right? And was present for our 2 decent runs of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Mercenary cunt can piss off. <eases the pain of the inevitable /> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 He missed that 11 in 13 games right? And was present for our 2 decent runs of form. 12-13 38 11 8 19 45 68 41 With Cabaye 25. 8 7 11 27 40 31 Without Cabaye 12 3 1 8 18 28 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 It's all about managing the fans and their expectations with Pardew and always has been. He'll mention the fact we probably won't sign him permanently in the summer more and more so the fans get used to the idea and by the time his loan expires the fan's expectations of seeing Remy next year will be zero and will therefore cause no upset/unrest. He's very quick to tell us what we, as a club, can't do. We can't sign top players, we can't pay big wages, we can't compete, we can't compete in Europe, we can't handle 2 games a week and we can't break into that top 7. The fan-base has heard so much negativity that it's become numb and de-sensitised to ambition. Some have been convinced that all of the shit that spews from all sources within the club that mediocrity is actually success. Not investing, under the guise of financial prudence, is something to be applauded. Stagnation is spun as 'stability', fan's apathy is actively encouraged and any/all ambition is to be crushed. Losing out on Remy is inevitable, they won't even fucking bother. They've got no intention of signing him and if Remy has an ounce of sense he'll not even consider the prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 It's all about managing the fans and their expectations with Pardew and always has been. He'll mention the fact we probably won't sign him permanently in the summer more and more so the fans get used to the idea and by the time his loan expires the fan's expectations of seeing Remy next year will be zero and will therefore cause no upset/unrest. He's very quick to tell us what we, as a club, can't do. We can't sign top players, we can't pay big wages, we can't compete, we can't compete in Europe, we can't handle 2 games a week and we can't break into that top 7. The fan-base has heard so much negativity that it's become numb and de-sensitised to ambition. Some have been convinced that all of the shit that spews from all sources within the club that mediocrity is actually success. Not investing, under the guise of financial prudence, is something to be applauded. Stagnation is spun as 'stability', fan's apathy is actively encouraged and any/all ambition is to be crushed. Losing out on Remy is inevitable, they won't even fucking bother. They've got no intention of signing him and if Remy has an ounce of sense he'll not even consider the prospect. And the sheep fall for it hook line and sinker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Absolutely 100% correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 This is why when I see sympathy for him ie being in a no win situation with those above him it's mildly irritating. And when I'm mildly irritated shit happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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