Ishmael Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Alright you western math geniuses, the point has been made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Alright you western math geniuses, the point has been made Not to mention employers' NIC..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 For the sake of maybe £500k a year, i can't believe we've lost this lad to QPR. It could be the difference of fat boy losing £50million or whatever it will be next season. Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 For the sake of maybe £500k a year, i can't believe we've lost this lad to QPR. It could be the difference of fat boy losing £50million or whatever it will be next season. It's not though is it. Pay Remy £80k a week, then you'll get HBA, Cisse, Cabaye, etc thinking "hang on a second". And now instead it's playing Shola, and we'll get HBA, Cisse, Cabaye etc thinking "hang on a second" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 For the sake of maybe £500k a year, i can't believe we've lost this lad to QPR. It could be the difference of fat boy losing £50million or whatever it will be next season. It's not though is it. Pay Remy £80k a week, then you'll get HBA, Cisse, Cabaye, etc thinking "hang on a second". Not getting the players we need to stay up will probably have our best assets thinking 'Hang on a second' as well though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Not particularly depressed by the fact that Remy won't play for us, mostly surprised after what Debuchy and Ben Arfa said in their interviews. Sounded as if he'd spoken to them and made his decision. However, there are more fish in the sea. My worry now lies with our ability to do deals quick enough. There isn't time to haggle over fees or waiting until the next window to get better value (Debuchy, Cissé). This month is Ashley and Llambias chance to correct the errors that were made in the summer. This is their chance to be prepared and bring in what is necessary. If they don't, they and we will pay the price. I hope there is a sound plan for what to do now. That plan could well be Aubameyang by the sound of things, a player who's club has repeatedly said he's not leaving in January. There has to be an understanding of what we can do now. Not something similar to the Gameiro chase when he never even wanted to come. Huge weeks ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Sad state of affairs when Newcastle United can't compete on wages with Queens Park Rangers. Not that I'm saying we should in this case like. You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg That's transfer fees only though isn't it? You were mentioning wages in your first sentence. Does that figure still hold if you take those into account? What the f***, you bolded a section and outright questioned its validity. Now you change your question. I don't have a ready graph that takes wages into account no. What I do know is our wages to turnover is one of the lowest in the league at the moment, which isn't bad in itself but it is obviously hurting us when we can't even compete with QPR for wages or offer our top scorer the going rate for a top Premiership striker. I don't think anybody can argue with that really.. Oh right. I should have realised you only wanted to discuss transfer fees and NOT include other significant expenses like wages because you wanted to make a daft point using partial truths. My bad. Are you thick mate? You bolded this particular segment in my post: It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. and said: I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. Those are the facts with regards to that section you questioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 We just can't escape this looking like a fool of a club business, can we? Even through a change in ownership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Well the mood on the board soon changed today. Stop arguing with each other lads, save it for the close of the transfer window after we've lost 3 players and brought 1 in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Sad state of affairs when Newcastle United can't compete on wages with Queens Park Rangers. Not that I'm saying we should in this case like. You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg That's transfer fees only though isn't it? You were mentioning wages in your first sentence. Does that figure still hold if you take those into account? What the f***, you bolded a section and outright questioned its validity. Now you change your question. I don't have a ready graph that takes wages into account no. What I do know is our wages to turnover is one of the lowest in the league at the moment, which isn't bad in itself but it is obviously hurting us when we can't even compete with QPR for wages or offer our top scorer the going rate for a top Premiership striker. I don't think anybody can argue with that really.. Oh right. I should have realised you only wanted to discuss transfer fees and NOT include other significant expenses like wages because you wanted to make a daft point using partial truths. My bad. Dude, you bolded a point and said he misrepresented the facts. He proved he didn't. Stop it . Either way, if Remy goes to QPR, it will be because they offer stupid wages. No other reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5428/easportsharryredknapp8c.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 For the sake of maybe £500k a year, i can't believe we've lost this lad to QPR. It could be the difference of fat boy losing £50million or whatever it will be next season. Worst maths ever. But we wouldn't need to offer him the whole 70k imo. 55/60k would probably be enough to lure him to the club. Maybe not nowadays i suppose. "If we invite any player up to the Quayside to see the girls and then up to our magnificent stadium, we will be able to persuade any player to sign." And i'm sure Colo will be on more than the supposed 40k wage cap anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Well the mood on the board soon changed today. Stop arguing with each other lads, save it for the close of the transfer window after we've lost 3 players and brought 1 in. Fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Well this is wonderful fucking news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5428/easportsharryredknapp8c.jpg Even got a spelling mistake in for authenticity. Excellent work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 We just can't escape this looking like a fool of a club business, can we? Even through a change in ownership. We look nothing of the sort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Sad state of affairs when Newcastle United can't compete on wages with Queens Park Rangers. Not that I'm saying we should in this case like. You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with fucking QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. There. I've bolded the other bit now where you equated the transfer fees with our wages policy. Happy now you pedantic twat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 It's all right lads. Remember: From Dean in Newcastle, via text: "No fan quite knows the emotional rollercoaster quite like a Newcastle fan!" Chris Lord on Twitter: "Erm.. Dean? I'm sure us Arsenal fans know it probably more." Arsenal fans amuse me. Champions League every year, multiple trophies in the last 20 years. The poor cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufcmatty2010 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Right guys gonna call it a night been good reading on here tonight lets hope for good news tommorrow but i dowt it night all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 "We can't compete with the big wages that some of the clubs in this division are paying." "We tried to get the deal over the line, but unfortunately Loyick chose to go to QPR and we wish him all the best." "I have no doubt that Mike and Derek are trying their best to sign a player or two to help us out of this relegation battle, but we don't have a lot of money and it is very difficult to sign players in January." "I'm still confident that we can get at least one deal over the line, to give Papiss some support. But don't forget, we've got Shola who has done a terrific job and Gabby too." "It's now my job to think about Saturday. Yohan is back and we have Matthew who was really good against Norwich too." "We need the fans on our side for all of the game if we are going to get out of trouble. Reading are a strong team and they will batter us, but as long as we don't concede then we have a chance." Just saving you the job Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 It's reported that the aim is to finish top 8 in the league. If that is the case and the other 7 are the "bigger" clubs (Utd, City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Everton, Arsenal, Liverpool) you'd expect to be in there i'd reckon only Jelavic would be a first choice striker on less than 70k a week. We clearly think Remy capable of being that level if willing to agree the fee but want to pay him half what others are on. I don't know enough about Remy to say if he's worth that but to get a striker to replace Ba you're looking at someone who's going to want the going rate or finding another undervalued player that will be off in a years time when someone will pay him what others are getting. Don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Sad state of affairs when Newcastle United can't compete on wages with Queens Park Rangers. Not that I'm saying we should in this case like. You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg Source?, the numbers look very odd even at first glance. http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html All the transfers are there. Knock yourself out. Yep doesn't add up at all. Just for example they have QPR as only selling players for the amount of £850k over the last 5 seasons. Yet they've sold 13 players for fees in that time and just two of those come to 750k, they're just not including any fees that were undisclosed because they didn't know the fee at the time. I don't doubt we'll be near the bottom of that table, but the source itself isn't very accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Mark Douglas@MsiDouglas Tomorrow in Journal: QPR get #nufc target Remy, 2 new/old striker targets & what really happened when Le Delegation went to France last wk Bet it is underwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 For the sake of maybe £500k a year, i can't believe we've lost this lad to QPR. It could be the difference of fat boy losing £50million or whatever it will be next season. It's not though is it. Pay Remy £80k a week, then you'll get HBA, Cisse, Cabaye, etc thinking "hang on a second". Not getting the players we need to stay up will probably have our best assets thinking 'Hang on a second' as well though. Regardless of signings it will be keeping Pardew that will make up players minds on whether it'll be better stay or go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Erdinc would kill me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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