sturla Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 If he gets us Remy, Gomis, a good squad player and/or a replacement for Williamson I'll take my hat off. What makes you think we wouldn't have done better if he hadn't been here in the first place, and a LOT sooner ? Past experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 "I'll be happy with Kinnear unless he completely ruins the club" Plenty of convenient leg room there. Convenient for what, exactly? The "never criticise anything ever" stuff. "He hasn't completely ruined the club so let's not be too harsh" etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 That goal he scored against Wigan last season... Was still irritated at him for the way he dicked around in January but that was an absolute beauty. Think he's an absolutely essential signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 "I'll be happy with Kinnear unless he completely ruins the club" Plenty of convenient leg room there. Convenient for what, exactly? The "never criticise anything ever" stuff. "He hasn't completely ruined the club so let's not be too harsh" etc. Because it means that much? Because it's such hard work appearing to speak your own opinion, that you have to come up with convenient get out clauses ahead of something bad happening? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I don't think anyone was impressed with the appointment of JFK, but some of the apocalyptic doom posted on here (and indeed just about everywhere else) was canny funny like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Can see Ben Arfa assisting him many many many times (if they can stay fit) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Apparently he wanted to come in January but we wouldn't pay what his agent wanted and QPR would - his agent won the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 "I'll be happy with Kinnear unless he completely ruins the club" Plenty of convenient leg room there. Convenient for what, exactly? The "never criticise anything ever" stuff. "He hasn't completely ruined the club so let's not be too harsh" etc. Because it means that much? Because it's such hard work appearing to speak your own opinion, that you have to come up with convenient get out clauses ahead of something bad happening? Everyone else is rightly saying "I'll judge him on what happens". "Anything other than the apocalypse will be fine by me!" is clearly convenient bollocks. Ianochi would be your tag team name fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Apparently he wanted to come in January but we wouldn't pay what his agent wanted and QPR would - his agent won the day. HP Sauce? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Apparently he wanted to come in January but we wouldn't pay what his agent wanted and QPR would - his agent won the day. Couldn't these players fire their pesky agents if they want to? It's surprising how much power agents hold over their clients. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Apparently he wanted to come in January but we wouldn't pay what his agent wanted and QPR would - his agent won the day. HP Sauce? Been talking to a bloke who works for a PL club - see him out and about. He also said that the Gomis deal is being held up as his Agent wants big money - 2 Million was the figure quoted to them. Remy had other options this time as well but wanted to come here - good news that and fits in with the press saying that we were making sure he really wanted to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Ianochi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 But if Gomis really wants to join us, why don't he tell his agent to fuck off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 More difficult to say 'fuck off' to a binding contract, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Am I being slagged off? I missed it :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 "I'll be happy with Kinnear unless he completely ruins the club" Plenty of convenient leg room there. Convenient for what, exactly? The "never criticise anything ever" stuff. "He hasn't completely ruined the club so let's not be too harsh" etc. Because it means that much? Because it's such hard work appearing to speak your own opinion, that you have to come up with convenient get out clauses ahead of something bad happening? Everyone else is rightly saying "I'll judge him on what happens". "Anything other than the apocalypse will be fine by me!" is clearly convenient bollocks. Ianochi would be your tag team name fwiw. Ah, differing from the majority opinion is automatically bollocks, and not an actual opinion, again. Cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 FWIW I hate Kinnear and think he should never have been appointed. I have said that many times, it's properly tiring having to explain stuff like this over and over again. All I said was that (NOW HE HAS BEEN APPOINTED) I will consider it a result if he manages not to wreck to our transfer dealings. Because that was in danger of happening. FWIW again, it's nothing to do with my ambitions for the club (Dave) or my desire to defend everything (which doesn't exist). Jeez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 FWIW I hate Kinnear and think he should never have been appointed. I have said that many times, it's properly tiring having to explain stuff like this over and over again. All I said was that (NOW HE HAS BEEN APPOINTED) I will consider it a result if he manages not to wreck to our transfer dealings. Because that was in danger of happening. FWIW again, it's nothing to do with my ambitions for the club (Dave) or my desire to defend everything (which doesn't exist). Jeez. Where's the proof of that, other than disliking Kinnear. This isn't a dig at you by the way, it does seem a general opinion that we wont sign players because of Kinnear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 FWIW I hate Kinnear and think he should never have been appointed. I have said that many times, it's properly tiring having to explain stuff like this over and over again. All I said was that (NOW HE HAS BEEN APPOINTED) I will consider it a result if he manages not to wreck to our transfer dealings. Because that was in danger of happening. FWIW again, it's nothing to do with my ambitions for the club (Dave) or my desire to defend everything (which doesn't exist). Jeez. Where's the proof of that, other than disliking Kinnear. This isn't a dig at you by the way, it does seem a general opinion that we wont sign players because of Kinnear. The proof that it was possible you mean? There isn't any really, it's just my opinion based on his previous experience, behaviour and the mental interviews he gave. I could just imagine him blundering around, talking shite, and pissing everyone off. As I said at the time though, our best hope is that he isn't actually as bad as he came across. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 FWIW I hate Kinnear and think he should never have been appointed. I have said that many times, it's properly tiring having to explain stuff like this over and over again. All I said was that (NOW HE HAS BEEN APPOINTED) I will consider it a result if he manages not to wreck to our transfer dealings. Because that was in danger of happening. FWIW again, it's nothing to do with my ambitions for the club (Dave) or my desire to defend everything (which doesn't exist). Jeez. Where's the proof of that, other than disliking Kinnear. This isn't a dig at you by the way, it does seem a general opinion that we wont sign players because of Kinnear. The proof that it was possible you mean? There isn't any really, it's just my opinion based on his previous experience, behaviour and the mental interviews he gave. I could just imagine him blundering around, talking shite, and pissing everyone off. As I said at the time though, our best hope is that he isn't actually as bad as he came across. Perceptions of him are that he's mental tbf, and understandable with some of interviews he's given. But as much as i dislike him being here i simply dont think players will go, who's this bloke i'm not signing. Or that he blunders about to casue that, he may or may not be very good as this job, time will tell. But he isn't going to spell doomsday as some think. Somewhere inbetween i reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 FWIW I hate Kinnear and think he should never have been appointed. I have said that many times, it's properly tiring having to explain stuff like this over and over again. All I said was that (NOW HE HAS BEEN APPOINTED) I will consider it a result if he manages not to wreck to our transfer dealings. Because that was in danger of happening. FWIW again, it's nothing to do with my ambitions for the club (Dave) or my desire to defend everything (which doesn't exist). Jeez. Where's the proof of that, other than disliking Kinnear. This isn't a dig at you by the way, it does seem a general opinion that we wont sign players because of Kinnear. The proof that it was possible you mean? There isn't any really, it's just my opinion based on his previous experience, behaviour and the mental interviews he gave. I could just imagine him blundering around, talking shite, and pissing everyone off. As I said at the time though, our best hope is that he isn't actually as bad as he came across. Perceptions of him are that he's mental tbf, and understandable with some of interviews he's given. But as much as i dislike him being here i simply dont think players will go, who's this bloke i'm not signing. Or that he blunders about to casue that, he may or may not be very good as this job, time will tell. But he isn't going to spell doomsday as some think. Somewhere inbetween i reckon. That's what I'm hoping. And he doesn't seem to have done much actual damage yet, so fingers crossed. As long as the overall transfer policy remains the same, I'll be fairly satisfied. Just all the doomsday predictions about pulling out of the Douglas deal to sign Tomkins, and all that shite, was a bit worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Agree with Ian here. 'What proof is there Kinnear would be bad?' ffs. Director of Football, or any sort of job which involves dealing with agents, footballers or those with a very high level of self-importance requires a subtle, patient and smooth touch. Kinnear is an antagonistic, aggressive sweary sort and it's perfectly natural to assume he'd be shit at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Agree with Ian here. 'What proof is there Kinnear would be bad?' ffs. Director of Football, or any sort of job which involves dealing with agents, footballers or those with a very high level of self-importance requires a subtle, patient and smooth touch. Kinnear is an antagonistic, aggressive sweary sort and it's perfectly natural to assume he'd be shit at it. I'm undecided on it really. Everything you say is true, but at the same time football is absolutely chock full of complete cunts. Agents, managers, players, DOFs, the lot. So in a way maybe Joe isn't so unusual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 FWIW I hate Kinnear and think he should never have been appointed. I have said that many times, it's properly tiring having to explain stuff like this over and over again. All I said was that (NOW HE HAS BEEN APPOINTED) I will consider it a result if he manages not to wreck to our transfer dealings. Because that was in danger of happening. FWIW again, it's nothing to do with my ambitions for the club (Dave) or my desire to defend everything (which doesn't exist). Jeez. Where's the proof of that, other than disliking Kinnear. This isn't a dig at you by the way, it does seem a general opinion that we wont sign players because of Kinnear. The proof that it was possible you mean? There isn't any really, it's just my opinion based on his previous experience, behaviour and the mental interviews he gave. I could just imagine him blundering around, talking shite, and pissing everyone off. As I said at the time though, our best hope is that he isn't actually as bad as he came across. Perceptions of him are that he's mental tbf, and understandable with some of interviews he's given. But as much as i dislike him being here i simply dont think players will go, who's this bloke i'm not signing. Or that he blunders about to casue that, he may or may not be very good as this job, time will tell. But he isn't going to spell doomsday as some think. Somewhere inbetween i reckon. Personally I think he might be more football savvy than Pardew. I remember when he was in charge during the relegation period and we weren't playing as bad football as we have under Pardew last year. The results were poor but at the time the squad was old and slow,and Ashley was not investing much at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Agree with Ian here. 'What proof is there Kinnear would be bad?' ffs. Director of Football, or any sort of job which involves dealing with agents, footballers or those with a very high level of self-importance requires a subtle, patient and smooth touch. Kinnear is an antagonistic, aggressive sweary sort and it's perfectly natural to assume he'd be shit at it. As manager of Wimbledon (i know), Kinnear bought players and that time he would have done most of the negotiating. And as a manager of other clubs he has bought players. To assume he would be disaster is fair enough on the shit we've seen. But whether you like it or not, he does know the in and outs of transfers. He may be shit, he may be great. Imo he'll be ok, just like Llambias was. Just imo this, i prefer Joe to Llambias. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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