Ronaldo Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I'd leave Tiote out at home against the vast majority of sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Easy - Tiote and Anita BOTH play in m/f with Cabaye in away games and tough home ones. Marveaux plays with Anita and Cabaye in easier home games. Wouldn't drop Cabaye in any circumstance if fit, but I'm still to be convinced he will be at SJP past the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 AC Milan christmas tree. 4-3-2-1 Cabye Tiote Anita HBA Marv Cisse This is the one for me but it can't really happen until we sign a RB. Playing this formation can work a few ways. We can let HBA and Marv roam but ideally I'd like most of that to come through the middle. Another way would see Tiote sitting on deep allowing Yohan and Vurn to get forward to support the three in front of them, maybe pushing HBA and Marv further wide. Either are fine really, and both could in theory see Tiote sitting allowing the other five to work their magic. It's imperative we have two good fullbacks for this to work though. From this formation there isn't ever going to be any genuine width unless the fullbacks push on. When in attack we could cause a whole host of problems if we could do this, with something like this when we have the ball in the opposition half: New CB - Colo --------------------------------------- Tiote Cabaye - Anita New RB - HBA - Marv - Santon Cisse The fullbacks really are key to it all in my opinion. If they can bomb up and down the flanks they offer the option of giving it wide if needs be and should free up HBA and Marv to work their magic. It also gives them the opportunity to get out wide if needs be to work with the fullbacks to create an overlap, pushing Yohan and/or Vurn to slot in further up the pitch. Having those two arriving in the box late wouldn't be a bad thing at all. The potential passing triangles we could form with a combination of Yohan, Vurn, HBA and Marv with Cisse then feeding off them too, we'd be able to play our way through any team in the league man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Santon Taylor Colo Tiote Anita Cabaye Marveaux HBA Cisse Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Ancelotti style Simpson Colo Someone Santon Cabaye Anita Tiote Marveaux Ben Arfa Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 If we're organised and pressure properly as a team, we don't need Tiote imo. I honestly think he's too limited to be a regular starter now we have Anita who I think is a far more rounded player. Also think Bigirimana has performed better than him this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Tiote would be a good fit with Anita and Cabaye because he could concentrate on what he's good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 AC Milan christmas tree. 4-3-2-1 Cabye Tiote Anita HBA Marv Cisse This is the one for me but it can't really happen until we sign a RB. Playing this formation can work a few ways. We can let HBA and Marv roam but ideally I'd like most of that to come through the middle. Another way would see Tiote sitting on deep allowing Yohan and Vurn to get forward to support the three in front of them, maybe pushing HBA and Marv further wide. Either are fine really, and both could in theory see Tiote sitting allowing the other five to work their magic. It's imperative we have two good fullbacks for this to work though. From this formation there isn't ever going to be any genuine width unless the fullbacks push on. When in attack we could cause a whole host of problems if we could do this, with something like this when we have the ball in the opposition half: New CB - Colo --------------------------------------- Tiote Cabaye - Anita New RB - HBA - Marv - Santon Cisse The fullbacks really are key to it all in my opinion. If they can bomb up and down the flanks they offer the option of giving it wide if needs be and should free up HBA and Marv to work their magic. It also gives them the opportunity to get out wide if needs be to work with the fullbacks to create an overlap, pushing Yohan and/or Vurn to slot in further up the pitch. Having those two arriving in the box late wouldn't be a bad thing at all. The potential passing triangles we could form with a combination of Yohan, Vurn, HBA and Marv with Cisse then feeding off them too, we'd be able to play our way through any team in the league man. Thomas's AC Milan Xmas tree idea is pretty good. I'm surprised in your formation you've said that width would come from the FBs and then put Santon at LB as he can't cross for toffee. He actually slows our attacks down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 AC Milan christmas tree. 4-3-2-1 Cabye Tiote Anita HBA Marv Cisse This is the one for me but it can't really happen until we sign a RB. Playing this formation can work a few ways. We can let HBA and Marv roam but ideally I'd like most of that to come through the middle. Another way would see Tiote sitting on deep allowing Yohan and Vurn to get forward to support the three in front of them, maybe pushing HBA and Marv further wide. Either are fine really, and both could in theory see Tiote sitting allowing the other five to work their magic. It's imperative we have two good fullbacks for this to work though. From this formation there isn't ever going to be any genuine width unless the fullbacks push on. When in attack we could cause a whole host of problems if we could do this, with something like this when we have the ball in the opposition half: New CB - Colo --------------------------------------- Tiote Cabaye - Anita New RB - HBA - Marv - Santon Cisse The fullbacks really are key to it all in my opinion. If they can bomb up and down the flanks they offer the option of giving it wide if needs be and should free up HBA and Marv to work their magic. It also gives them the opportunity to get out wide if needs be to work with the fullbacks to create an overlap, pushing Yohan and/or Vurn to slot in further up the pitch. Having those two arriving in the box late wouldn't be a bad thing at all. The potential passing triangles we could form with a combination of Yohan, Vurn, HBA and Marv with Cisse then feeding off them too, we'd be able to play our way through any team in the league man. Thomas's AC Milan Xmas tree idea is pretty good. I'm surprised in your formation you've said that width would come from the FBs and then put Santon at LB as he can't cross for toffee. He actually slows our attacks down. He doesn't necessarily need to cross, just offer himself out wide. With that team above I'm not sure why we'd need that many crosses into the box, we'd only have Cisse to aim for! He gets into some very good attacking positions and with better movement in and around the box he'd rack up lots of assists from cutting the ball back. Put him at RB if we must and sign a LB, not particularly fussed either way, still think he's a very good attacking threat and will be one of the ones to flourish from having some support from the opposite flank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Aye, you're right the Xmas tree looks tasty! Will we see it though!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Sell Ba and play Cisse on his tod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 If we're organised and pressure properly as a team, we don't need Tiote imo. I honestly think he's too limited to be a regular starter now we have Anita who I think is a far more rounded player. Also think Bigirimana has performed better than him this season. I don't think we concede 3 goals from open-play against Man Utd. with Tiote imo. Always said we are too light in the middle without him. IMO Anita, Cabaye & Bigi need a tough-tackler alongside them. I'm pretty certain with everyone fit Pard's will go Tiote-Anita-Cabaye. With Bigi & Marv looking to replace Tiote and Cabs if we need a goal. IMO Marv has looked a better playmaker than Cabaye, he can carry the ball and pass but Cabs works so much harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 For a proper AC Milan Christmas tree your creative midfielder (Cabaye) would be at the base of midfield with energetic ballwinners either side, which also enables them to shine, what with having one side of the pitch to patrol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Tiote Anita Cabaye Ben Arfa Marveaux Surely that would enable one of Cabaye / Anita to come forward in attack when needed and spread when the ball is going the other way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I'd leave Tiote out at home against the vast majority of sides. Totally agree with this, I think he's a necessity away from home and against the 'big' teams but we don't need him against the lesser sides. At home, I'd like to see a midfield 3 of Cabaye, Anita and Marveaux with Ba, Cisse and HBA up top. Away, I'd want Tiote, Cabaye and Anita as the 3 with HBA, Marveaux as the wide forwards and either Ba or Cisse in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Really not sure we are too big to be confident of results against any sides tbh. Tiote had annoyed me this season with his poor passing/reckless challenges and I have probably gone over the top at times but he is one of our 'purple' players and we aren't going to dominate many teams so much that we don't have to defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Would help if Tiote didn't think he was Pirlo and just doing the job he's best at. Breaking up play and giving it simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Really not sure we are too big to be confident of results against any sides tbh. Tiote had annoyed me this season with his poor passing/reckless challenges and I have probably gone over the top at times but he is one of our 'purple' players and we aren't going to dominate many teams so much that we don't have to defend. I don't think he's as useful in games where we're on, or need to be on, the attacking front, he's a much better player when we're under the cosh. I'd rather try and dominate the middle with genuine skill, which I think we can do against the majority of teams at home. It's not a case of not defending at all either, Cabaye and Anita are very astute defensively and as long as we have discipline in our shape, we'll remain solid, you don't necessarily need defensive midfielders in there all the time. I've watched a lot of teams come here this year and put in a massive defensive shift and we've really struggled to break them down. We need as much creativity as we can get, there's plenty of crap in the league that don't need the amount of respect we've shown them so far this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Anita and Marveaux on the bench to be honest. Perch and Tiote as holding midfielders. Cabaye and Ben Arfa as attacking midfielders with both assigned a wing for defensive duties. Ba as a deep lying striker, Cisse up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Anita and Marveaux on the bench to be honest. Perch and Tiote as holding midfielders. Cabaye and Ben Arfa as attacking midfielders with both assigned a wing for defensive duties. Ba as a deep lying striker, Cisse up top. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpoxqnjsnY1qii6tmo1_500.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Anita and Marveaux on the bench to be honest. Perch and Tiote as holding midfielders. Cabaye and Ben Arfa as attacking midfielders with both assigned a wing for defensive duties. Ba as a deep lying striker, Cisse up top. http://i.imgur.com/pgnTT.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Sell Ba and play Cisse on his tod. Cisse was most effective as a lone striker at Freiburg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Marveux > Cabaye ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Too early to say, Marveaux has certainly played better the last few games.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now